I would just like to know, why the straight people on this site are so discriminated against? Why the straight people on this site, dont really have as much rights as the gay people do?
God forbid the poor gay people on this site get attacked. We cant make any homophobic remarks to them, cuz they cant help the way they are. They were born that way and we shouldnt attack them. We cant attack trannies, cuz they are gender confused and its not their fault. God forbid we do any of that.
Yet its perfectly fine for gay people & trannies to attack straight people, or anyone for that matter, based on anything. They cant attack us for being straight, so we get attacked for other things, like our looks or something. As if we can do anything about the way we were born.
What in the fuck makes gay people so special, that they get their own little category, that we cant insult people about? Homophobic remarks are no worse that someone being insulted on their looks and who the fuck are you to be the judge of that?
Just because in society, its portrayed that way...that really isnt the case at all. There are more cases in the world, for people being bullied and killing themselves over other things than being gay. I'm not one who really cares about insults towards me, I can give them back the same.
There are other people who deal with things in different ways though. Someone might be really hurt by a homophobic comment, another person might not. Just as someone might be hurt by being called fat or ugly, another might not. Same goes for calling someone a retard.
Its not fair to Tengaged as a whole. So if you're gonna ban for homophobic or gender based comments, be fucking fair and ban for ANY kind of harrassment. Whether its looks or whatever. Or stop banning people for homophobic stuff too and just allow everything.
They should NOT have more rights than everyone else and its really disgusting that they do. There needs to be some sort of balance when it comes to this kind of stuff and there really isnt any at all.
I know you have been insulted yourself before Ashlee and whether it hurts you or not, this is something that you really should push to the rest of Tengaged Moderation. I know that you will reply back to me, because you are good about that.
It would be nice if Tengaged Moderation also had the decency to reply back as well, instead of just going around banning and rarely replying to messages.
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I see your point, but I disagree with this on the whole "gay people are getting more rights than straight people" thing.
It seems like the fword is ranked as the highest possible offence on this site to be banned for,
yet people say dyke and it is fine, call someone a retard and it's fine, insult someone based on their appearance, career, hobbies, etc.. all completely fine.
I think there is definitely a difference between attacking people for being gay and attacking straight people for other things; using slurs like the f word is just purely an attack and homophobia and is bannable. I guess it really depends on what the attack is, like, if you were attack someone specifically for being straight it should be bannable, though that's a very rare occurence and I can't think of any slurs to use against straight people- but that doesn't mean it's still the exact same thing.
No, gay people shouldn't not be banned for attacking straight people specifically because they're gay, but it's really a matter on what happened in the actual situation.
Jacob_96 what world are you living in that straight people are treated any differently to gay people?? Everyone has the same rights, are given the same education, job oppurtunities, etc.. I'
LamiaJacob_96 This blog isn't homophobic considering Brandon really says nothing bad about gay people but rather the way gay people and straight people are supposedly treated differently.
Slice so sexual orientation doesn't matter but takes priority over belittling someone because they have a legitimate retardation in their brain or because they are heavy?
BlueStar Dyke should be bannable, it is a homophobic slur and I really don't see why people aren't being banned for it, it's basically the exact same thing. :/ I agree with you on that 100%.
mrjjsmithy Bullying someone because they are mentally ill or overweight still bothers me as much as homophobia does. I don't think anybody should get leverage because of their sexual orientation. All bullying is equally obscene in my books.
I understand that it might not be fair for someone to be made fun of for their appearance or speech while being made fun of for their race or sexual orientation is against the rules. I don't see how this means straight people are being discriminated against.
"Yet its perfectly fine for gay people & trannies to attack straight people, or anyone for that matter, based on anything. They cant attack us for being straight, so we get attacked for other things, like our looks or something."
Anyone can attack anyone for their looks - I don't know how exactly this has to do with straight people being attacked.
I believe if you feel like your being attacked for whatever sexuality you are you need to contact Rando, and if Rando gives special rights to anyone than its bias when it should be equal
I agree with this blog myself. There are very few straight guys on tengaged, that is not opinion, its a fact, BUT the one's I have seen, have been bashed for it here and there. I saw a comment on a blog a few weeks ago, from a gay guy to a straight, saying something along the lines of 'EWWW HOW CAN YOU LIKE VAGINA EWWW'...I remember thinking then how ridiculous that was. Gay guys are in a majority on this site, something I highly doubt they are used to IRL, so I think they do subconsciously form an unwritten alliance with the other gays,as they feel more comfortable with them.
The fact is though, I've not seen a straight guy on here go 'ewwww penis' or a girl 'ewww vagina' etc... Maybe its fear of the unknown, idk. But why should we pussyfoot around the gay guys, like the whole 'don't offend them because they're gay' bla bla ... Excuse the pun, but man up, if you're gay, you will hear that word, and may have it thrown at you sometime in your life, away from the site. There ARE worse things to be called. Plus, some [i know not all but some] gay people on here HAVE had a demeaning word or two to say about the choices of straight guys. It works both ways, accept it.
Society has a double standard on sexuality. Who says gays can't attack straights for being straight? Attacks on sexuality will always be worse irregardless of society. You guys don't experience it, therefore you don't know.
Tbh everyone gets attacked for everything. Don't matter of u sexual preference, gender, looks, weight. People always bully, people always attack. I'm discusted with half the shit that happens on this site, like people attacking peoples families, death treaths bc u get evicted in games. Tengaged is just a breeding ground of trolls and bullying.
I agree to be honest, it's a bit awkward to talk about obv but Tengaged has turned into a majority gay site since the early days. Randomize is lucky cause it keeps the site running mainly LOL
I see where you're coming from on this but what I really wonder is gay dudes like worship some chicks on here. Now before y'all come after me about past shit and talking to girls on here...let me explain. Janelle, "JennCity", Emmaleigh, NoelSarah, Ashlee, Diva, shayy, etc. All straight up worshiped on here sometimes but people like me get off and on dislike, Frank is generally disliked, Boogie is generally disliked, Kevin from glass house was hated. On the other hand, these chicks are just regular folks like us and if they do something wrong, they are quickly forgiven for it like nothing happened. I mean cmon man Erica from GH was just as ruthless as Kevin, Brit cries way too much and is sometimes really bitchy, Janelle got strategically bodybagged, i'm not even going to get into to the tengaged chicks I mentioned :D. These chicks are hot yes but i see no hatin towards them :|. I'm sorry for the controversial speech but I just had to point all that out...and raise a question.
I dunno. I sort of agree and sort of disagree. Like, I believe in equality for sure.
But the thing about being attacked for your appearance is like that one puts oneself in it. Nobody requires a picture to be posted here. So if one does so, I feel like they do it to themselves. This site is full of very young people, immature to say the least. You can't expect these children to be respectful and polite when a seemingly grotesque or unsightly picture is posted. So it's a rather simple ridicule to avoid online, really. And I definitely do not feel that there is a gay/straight battle here when it comes to appearance. EVERYONE gets made fun of on here for it, be it gay or straight. I feel like it just so happens that there are more gay people here so the odds of them looking better is higher (more people, better odds). That may be where your bias comes into play.
However, I feel like being gay is completely not the same. It's part of my personality. I cannot hide it, if I'm being myself. Sure I can try to control what I type, but let's face it...my personality is gonna shine on here sooner or later. Therefore it makes it rather impossible to hide.
I get that this isn't your point to your blog, but I feel like this is food for thought. I'll reiterate that I am all for equality for everyone.
Bluestar - Definitely agree that all homophobic language is detestable.
I remember on this site where calling someone a cunt or a retard is banable. Mostly now it is for homophobic stuff. Like there is a difference than calling someone a fag and just being so rude to them about their sexuality. I think it depends on the way it said it should be punished.
But reading this, it saddens me that people on here would attack others about their looks and get away scotch free when they should be punished (depending on what they say and how they portray it). Just like in our society now we want everything to be equal but sadly we live in a word where being equal is a hard thing to get and this goes with Tengaged as well.
And I agree with PrincessTeePee. Like there is not a lot of straight guys on this site. And half of them get attacked for being homophobic and the others are the ones we think are gay, but they aren't.
bluestar for d*ke it depends. One mod told me its fine to say it. Another time I was banned because apparently it's homophobic to lesbians when I didn't even direct the word to someone on here.. #biasedmods
You know I adore you Brandon, but there is a difference between gay slurs and people on this site attacking straight people. In our society being straight is a normality, no one is ever really attacked for being straight because...well it's kind of silly? There's never been anything that makes straight people feel as though they are "less" than gay people, it's just our society, being openly gay is a relatively new thing, 20 years ago it wasn't nearly as accepted as it is now.
There is STILL a lot of homophobia and slander going on, gay people are still vilified by religious zealots and other groups because it's "not right" and seen as "bad", so growing up being gay, there's a lot of pressure put on you that you are "bad" and "wrong". No straight person growing up really has to deal with that type of pressure, because they're attracted to what is "normal".
I believe in equality, but as it stands right now, there is still no equal grounds. This website doesn't reflect the population of the world, and the LARGE gay community here allows gay teenagers (or even adults like myself) who aren't so open about their sexuality, feel comfortable by being in a community that you're in the majority in as far as sexuality is concerned.
I find it REALLY silly for any gay person to try to pick on or belittle straight people for being straight, because they should know first hand what it is like, but on the other hand, a lot of gay people have issues with straight men because that's where a lot of the torment comes from, and this site might be a way to take out some frustration for them. That doesn't make it right, but that's honestly the only reason I could think of as to why someone would attack a straight person for being straight.
We may not be close anymore, but I know you and I know that you are not homophobic and are an incredibly open minded person who listened to a lot of my problems, and anyone who thinks this blog is homophobic doesn't know the kind of person you are.
But at the same time, it is a different situation, the stress of real life and this site are different, and I think you should be thankful that the only time you ever have to be made fun of for your sexuality is a rare occasion online.
Well if some gay people deny that gays pick on straights theres no denying how much 90% of them on here love to attack the religious and belittle them on the blogs page and constantly bash god & things and act like it's being thrown in their face when no one is on the blogs page throwing religion in their face when actually they're throwing their anti-god actions in our face =]. JS. "There is no god, christians, muslims ect. are afraid of death" blog will get a top blog real quick. #hypocrites Just cause you see some religious people attacking gays on tv doesn't give you the right to do it to ones that DON'T do it to you on here.
I agree with princessteepee's comment. What bugs me is that the moderators can rank certain types of harassment above others. Calling someone the fword is harassment, so is picking on someone because of their physical appearance. I don't see why one is bannable and one is completely OK. The mods opinions on what is bannable does not necessarily reflect the victim's opinion.
The_Domany
...you WOULD be the advocate for the anti-bullying of heterosexuals... it's just too hysterically batshit crazy.
Timster
Atheists exist. We put up with people saying we're going to hell, you can put up with people saying you're wasting your time. I figured coexistence would be something you'd agree with...
Tengaged_Moderation is ANYTHING said against homosexuals bannable or simply slurs?
"It would be nice if Tengaged Moderation also had the decency to reply back as well, instead of just going around banning and rarely replying to messages."
...and they may be too busy laughing their ass off to reply.
Jacob_96 what world are you living in that straight people are treated any differently to gay people?? Everyone has the same rights, are given the same education, job oppurtunities, etc.. I'
Sent by BlueStar,Aug 30, 2012
No. Just no. I can't marry in most states and there are some who would rather I not teach children (Jeff Schroeder v. Kalia incident wasn't just a fluke, there are shitty people like Jeff around), kill for my country, or adopt children.
Well first thing first is I 100% agree, they attack us on our intelligance for our thoughts on almost anything! They are like female cops once u give them power, as they have power in numbers they become just who they despise. They make SO MANY ANTI- RELGIOUS which why is that no bannable and why is cunt not bannable. This site, is meant for the minorty irl so they can have majourity and thats fine just treat people with respect.
They have more arrgonace the hatch... its annoying
I agree with this blog myself. There are very few straight guys on tengaged, that is not opinion, its a fact, BUT the one's I have seen, have been bashed for it here and there. I saw a comment on a blog a few weeks ago, from a gay guy to a straight, saying something along the lines of 'EWWW HOW CAN YOU LIKE VAGINA EWWW'...I remember thinking then how ridiculous that was. Gay guys are in a majority on this site, something I highly doubt they are used to IRL, so I think they do subconsciously form an unwritten alliance with the other gays,as they feel more comfortable with them.
The fact is though, I've not seen a straight guy on here go 'ewwww penis' or a girl 'ewww vagina' etc... Maybe its fear of the unknown, idk. But why should we pussyfoot around the gay guys, like the whole 'don't offend them because they're gay' bla bla ... Excuse the pun, but man up, if you're gay, you will hear that word, and may have it thrown at you sometime in your life, away from the site. There ARE worse things to be called. Plus, some [i know not all but some] gay people on here HAVE had a demeaning word or two to say about the choices of straight guys. It works both ways, accept it.
Sent by PrincessTeePee,Aug 30, 2012
If anyone was serious about saying "Ew Vagina" they got problems... but considering the norm for society is having heterosexual feelings I'm fairly certain they were simply kidding, joking about the irony that the tables are turned and homosexuality is the norm on tengaged. It is somewhat hysterical, but I don't think any right-minded gay would truly mean those words.
...plus if this really annoys people... just wow... wow.
Well first thing first is I 100% agree, they attack us on our intelligance for our thoughts on almost anything! They are like female cops once u give them power, as they have power in numbers they become just who they despise. They make SO MANY ANTI- RELGIOUS which why is that no bannable and why is cunt not bannable. This site, is meant for the minorty irl so they can have majourity and thats fine just treat people with respect.
They have more arrgonace the hatch... its annoying
Sent by Alaadin,Aug 31, 2012
"they are like female cops once u give them power"
Gays attack gays on shit.
Straights attack gays on shit.
Gays attack straights on shit.
Straights attack straights on shit.
All is fine and dandy as long as you don't go overboard with what you say. But don't use gays as the scapegoat, it's everyone's indecency. It's not as if straight people have never attacked anyone on this website. (Not saying gays don't either... but that's just my fucking point, it's not just one group)
I agree with this. I feel like there should be some discretion between reports made for genuine harassment and when someone is being malicious in trying to get someone banned. I mean, sexgoddx is known to harass and torment people, if not he'd have no identity on this site. It's a simple case of if you are going to dish it out, you better be able to take it. Everyone on this site needs to stop being so God Damn sensitive and grow some balls. If you are going to attack people and act like a child, you can't play the victim if they retaliate. People think they can use moderation as a tool to get what they want, and that IS NOT what moderation is for. Moderation is here to enforce rules and guidelines to maintain a safe and fun environment. I think when people think they can walk all over moderation and report whatever they feel is "offensive" but in reality, a lot of the shit that is said on this website people claim to be "offensive" they really don't give a damn about.
Plain and simple people like to be malicious and they use moderation as a means to do that.
Alaadin
No sir, you are wrong.
Kentuckyy is VERY gay. He has been banned before for saying shit about Popeye... gays get banned too, and we all know this, and that's just one gay ban that came up off the top of my head.
AND NO ONE MAKES FUN OF STRAIGHTS FOR BEING STRAIGHT. THAT WOULD SIMPLY BE RIDICULOUS. Tengaged, if you fucking believe that is the case, you are all delusional.
I agree that any sort of harassment should lead to swift repercussions, but the way you're handling this is neither candid nor respectful.
Just because harassment towards the gay community on this website has led to stronger punishments doesn't mean you should join in and hate as well towards a community who has not done a thing to you. By saying things like "God forbid the poor gay people on this site get attacked," you are justifying harassment. And not just pointed towards LGBT people, but in general. By opening up harassment to one group, you're opening it up to all groups.
I know you're trying to do something good here and get something done, but instead you are doing nothing proactive and escalating the issue. I know if someone attacked me on this website or otherwise regarding my sexual orientation, I would want something to be done about it. So then how would it be my fault in that situation that the moderators may be more favorable to punishing whoever wronged me rather than anyone who harasses anyone else? You're making people feel insecure and unsafe on this website by stating that so openly. You're making them feel like if they are attacked, they should not report it because there are other people out there who are getting it worse. First off, this is not the case. Second, if ANYONE feels they are being harassed about ANYTHING, he or she should try to do something about it.
And if a gay or transgender person does attack a straight person, he or she should be reprimanded just like anybody else. I understand that you're trying to get this point across, but like I said, you're not. The gist of this is that nobody should be allowed to target another person (outside of the BB house), and you're likening the LGBT community to be filled with hate-mongers and trolls. Choose your words carefully next time because you have no idea how they are going to effect your readers, ESPECIALLY when this gets on the front page where everyone can (and most likely WILL) see them.
Is your ego that fucking big that you need to take offense to this, and dramatize a problem that is clearly not a real issue? Ignorant people like you are the reason why gay people do not have nearly the amount of rights as others.
The point he is making is that bullying is bullying, wether it be aimed at your sexuality, religion, appearance, life.. But moderation has made it so that sexuality is more highly ranked in terms of being offensive on the site.
Some of you are acting like what Brandon is saying is homophobic and that's not the case. Instead of getting on the defence try and actually see what the point behind this is.
I'm gay and pretty open about it here on Tengaged! Most of the name calling and insulting just happens to be joking, and about 90% of the time the bullies don't even know that we are gay! I just laugh at the jokes because I know that the bully's intension may be to light up the game without actually knowing anything... or they are just kidding! But I don't think I have any more rights then the guy next to me in fastings. So yuppp! That's it :)
It is never okay to belittle or make someone feel inferior based on their race, religion, sexuality, country of origin or their appearance. It's just that simple in my opinion.
The_Domany this is something I fight irl as it annoys me to no end how a group of people fight for "equality" by constantly trying to separate themselves...Yes things can be harder for the lgbt community just like the disabled, certain ethnic minorities etc BUT that in no way should give them special rights or a free pass to say and do what they want with no recourse...To me bullying is bullying...Our generation grew up in a different time that wasn't so PC and instead we were simply told to toughen up...I think in a lot of ways that is what today's generation need...They have always had their hand held so they no longer know how to deal with things and issues on their own...Have you noticed the increase in things such as shooting sprees, suicide, etc have all continually increased as our society has went more towards this way of thinking??? It can't be a coincidence as studies show that in countries that still don't subscribe to this way still have less violent sprees, crime, bullying, suicide, etc...
I agree. People need to chillax. Is this a gay support website or a site for gamers... in the end its becoming more of the former. At least equalize the 2.
I don't think there's any real difference in the rights we have, but I think ppl should be allowed to say whatever and ppl who get offended can man up a little cuz some of the things ppl get banned for are ridiculous
bluestar 's last comment is right. But there's so many close minded people who go around calling people close minded for their opinions but when their opinions "hurts their feelings" then they call someone a homophobe.
Maybe if people didn't have wretched personalities on this site we wouldn't have devolved into this.
Oh and if I were to casually throw the 'n' word around just like some others throw the 'f' word around, TMOD would make me disappear in the night very quickly.
Decent points, but I would've appreciated a more positive argument where maybe you just stood up against bullying in general instead of pitting different groups against each other.
I have been attacked plenty of times on this site. I am gay but I have never been attacked for that. The truth is that there are rules against "homophobic" behavior because it is offensive. I would happily agree with making rules on making fun of straight people but that never seems to be an issue. From reading this blog it seems that you think that any attack on a gay person is against the rules and that is just not true.
