Ok, so a lot has happened to me tonight. It all started voting out to someone I considered a good friend out of YT Survivor. Understand that choice was all strategy and had NOTHING to do with the person at all plus even if I voted to keep Lee in, the votes were still not there. And now I'm being called a fake friend for my decision. I was NEVER a fake friend at all to him, and I will NEVER be a fake friend to anyone. Having to do that really fucking hurt bad because I actually lost a friendship with someone I REALLY and TRULY cared about. My opinion on anyone inside of game has nothing to do with how I view them on the outside. In fact, I REALLY value TF out of my friends ESPECIALLY outside of games. Sorry if a game has to describe the relationship I have with someone. I don't care how much this blog gets hated, just know at the end of the day, I still love and respect Lee so much no matter if he views the same about me or not. Thank you all.
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stop playing in Premades and this might seem more honest just saying 😎
I mean when you value a friendship you wont risk losing it over games that dont matter personally I would not vote a friend whose friendship I value out over a game that wont matter in a week
Yeah but if that person is your friend he also wouldn't judge you for playing the game and wouldn't call you a fake person and ruin everything because of an online game lol koolness234
admir and if you were a friend of a person you wouldnt lie to them for an online game that means nothing. At least that is what my morals are, I dont go voting friends out of games when there are other options and the game will mean nothing in a week. So I dont see the point, friends dont betray each other. I guess maybe your version of friends do...
In a game everything is allowed koolness234. That's why it's called a game, not a "loyalty contest". Just because we are friends doesn't mean we are supposed to ruin the concept of a game where we would be 100% loyal to each other. It gives other people zero chances to be close to you knowing you're reserved for someone else. If a friend lied to me in a game and told me after the game that it was purely strategic, I wouldn't mind. A game cannot ruin what I have with that person especially because it's something so irrelevant, as you say. So being lied to IN A GAME is okay, it's fun because you are not 100% sure that things will go your way and it adds more adrenaline to it.
I'm not saying I'd necessarily vote out my closest friends, that all depends if I joined to have fun or if I joined to play for real. I'm saying I understand the concept of voting people out despite the relations you might have to them. Voting out a friend off a game does isn't equal to not liking them, being fake and what not. Idk if you can understand me better now.
admir I guess we will have to agree to disagree because now you are writing paragraphs like I do not understand your initial comment. However, since I luckily have basic reading comprehension skills I understood what you were saying in your initial post. I value friendships over games and karma since at the end of the day the things you remember on this site, and the reason I come back is because of my friendships I have with people. I personally do not think any karma or game amount is worth lying and being fake to a friend and voting them out when I have other options. I am usually very successful in orgs, and go pretty far and unless you show dishonesty to me, I will be loyal to a fault. I value loyalty and honesty in my friendships, and not somebodies ability to play the game and make moves. I dont value dishonesty and being fake in friendships online or in real life. I just cannot think of a circumstance when lying to a friend is acceptable behavior that friends should exhibit to each other, and this has never affected my ability to play the game. I really do not care what the game is, what I am saying is the inverse of your argument can be used as well. If it is just a game why lie and back stab people you are friends with, when the feeling of being betrayed by a friend is a shitty one and everyone knows that, so why put your friend through that for virtual karma and t. Anyone I regularly play with can tell you I am loyal as fuck, and I am a ride or die ally. I expect the same values in my friendships. So once again maybe we value friends with different qualities. Because if it really is just a game, then there is no reason to be fake or lie to a friend :)
I don't think writing a paragraph is a bad thing to do if I wanted to express myself better lol, I felt like you didn't understand me so I tried to explain it better koolness234.
I know what you want to say. For me it works both ways:
- if it's just a game, then you don't lie and be loyal to your friends
- if it's just a game, nothing you do should affect the other person because everyone has a right to play their own game the way they want
My point is you don't think the second option is right and therefore you talk like I don't value true friendships and that my friendships are based on lying LOL? You are MIXING 2 THINGS: GAME vs FRIENDSHIP.
1) Friendship is what we all come for on Tengaged. It absolutely need to be built on an honest way and trusting each other and when I say trusting each other it's not just trusting each other in games. Trusting is way more than that. So obviously you join games with friends, stay loyal to them and have fun with them WHICH IS OKAY. You make good memories together that way and something you can laugh about later. You enjoy playing with them and that's a fun way to be.
2) When playing a game and I mean, PLAYING a game, you are not playing FOR KARMA AND T$. At least I am not. I'm playing like I've been dropped among the strangers and trying to see how can I actually make it through. I am testing my ability to survive based on what I am able to do in it. I am testing my capability to adapt and make the best plan to get as far as possible. But THEN i expect other people to play like that. I don't want to have any help aka premade or something. It's never about any prize this online site can offer, its about a satisfaction that you played without your premade helping you, you did it in your OWN WAY.
So yes I agree with you. We all choose friends. I have friends who wouldn't be dead mad at me for voting them out and I wouldn't be mad at them for voting me out. Because in the end of the day, we will look back at those backstabs and laugh about it because we don't get petty over it. But you have to be emotionally strong and not get affected by being voted out by a friend.
So i understand when you say you can't play like that. But I wanr you to understand that there are people who can and that they are not by any means fake and bad people.
admir No I am saying we value different things in our friendships, you have a different set criteria of what friendship is to you and what is acceptable actions that your friends can do or not do when playing games with you. I never once said you were a fake or a bad person nor said anyone who does play like that is a fake or bad person. However, when you are fake I have a right to call people fake on how I view what the notion of fake is. I am not mixing anything up, and the same way you feel like Ive put in argument in your mouth, your whole last post is you essentially doing the same thing. I do not need you telling me what argument I am making and that I cannot differentiate between game and friendship. I can do that for myself and do not need you dictating our putting words in my mouth since you do not want me to do that either. I do not need you to help me understand anything because that assumes the position that I did not understand your initial comment. Once again since I have basic reading comprehension skills like I comment above I get your position. So please do not try to tell me I am mixing things up when I am not.
I do not value friendships of people who would lie to me in games when there are other options when we are friends because the game means virtual nothing. I understand people view it differently and if they want to thats up to them and their own personal choices. The funny thing was the first time fake was brought up in this exchange was by you not me. You brought that word into the discussion I never once mentioned anyone being fake. I said we value different things in our friendship and I value people who will not backstab me or vote me out in games when there are other relevant options. I am the type of friend who will vote with you in a 9-2 minority because you are my friend, I dont care about the repercussions because I can handle myself in the game accordingly after you leave. However I will make someone I do not know mad at me that I voted them out despite me knowing they are not going for a friend because if I say you are my friend and im voting with you, then I am voting with you despite the repercussions. I also find it strange considering I have seen you join games with premades before, recent stars comes to mind. Not that it matters I play in premades all the time but you bringing up you play games to have the satisfaction of not having a premade is little strange to me considering ive seen you with them before, once again nothing wrong with premading.
You and your friends can lie to each other in games all you want and be best buds outside the game and I am happy for you because you and your friends dont value loyalty in games like I do never once said it makes you an inherently bad person. I just said we value different things in our friendships and I value loyalty depsite if we are playing Big Brother or Monopoly because that is how I play the game and expect my friends who have my back playing the game.
The funny thing is you are trying to say that someone who is a friend is not a decent friend if they get upset "Yeah but if that person is your friend he also wouldn't judge you for playing the game and wouldn't call you a fake person and ruin everything because of an online game lol" Which I find ironic that you are trying to make a judgement that people that act like that were not your friends in the first place, but getting pressed that I am saying the exact inverse of your argument saying a friend would never back-stab you to begin with. Which leads me to once again the conclusion made above that we value different things in our friendship, you value people that you can play backstab and still all have a good time, and I value friends that would never backstab me over a game to begin with
crimsonennui I really don't know what happened about you & pinkipie, I commented about something else.
My pitch is completely different. I understand not everyone is thinking like me so I guess you have a right to be mad. But my point is, I wouldn't be mad to the point where I don't want to tall to them. Contrary, I would accept I was being lied to in a game and I'd know what to do next time. But out of the game it would be cool.
But this discussion will literally go around in MLA paragraph essays all day because we have different views of what is acceptable in a friendship, and I dont consider people who backstab me friends, and you can have someone backstab you and you consider them your friend. This is a worldview issue that goes deeper than online games because we both have different opinions on acceptable actions in a friendship. Which is ok, and I dont see either of us changing our minds admir
admir I apologized to grace after the blogs we made and we are on good terms
I even untagged her from the blog because I do feel like I was way too harsh towards her cause I knew she didn’t want to vote me off and I wouldn’t want her to be in a shitty position. But the rest of them all lied to my face some of those people I’ve been friends with since I was like 15 years old (18 now) it was just my initial reaction at the time and I should’ve handled it better but I just don’t wanna bother talking to the rest of them they’re hella fake and it’s not the first time they’ve done this
When I said you're mixing things up, it's because of the previous comment that you've made and how I perceived it. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, I told you what I understood from what you wrote before.
I brought up "fake" accidentally because thats what pinkipie said that people called her so I used it to explain people like her should not be called such so idk whata wrong with that.
I have a right to say you're wrong like you have a right to say I'm wrong. You are bringing up my stars game like I said "I ALWAYS JOIN TO PLAY THE GAME FOR REAL". If you go back and read what I said, I also said I join with friends to have fun and make memories which I did in that stars. I'm sorry but you bringing up my stars game shows you didn't understand me completely. There are games where I voted out close friends and there are games where I play loyal. I can play both and both are interesting for me.
I never said people who get mad after being voted out were never friends in the first place. That's your way of understanding what I tried to say but that is not my judgement lol. My point is, a person has a right to be upset about the outcome, but shouldn't stop being your friend because of it. But that is how I see it and I don't expect you to see it that way. I expect it from MY friends tho. I wouldn't want to be close to someome if they got mad at me for voting them out of a game and refusing to stay in touch with me because of it. Being so hurt about it to the point where you will drop everything else we made tells me the game is way too important and is a measure of loyalty which I don't agree with. But that is me and I'm okay if you don't feel that way.
I agree that we have different opinions which is absolutely fine. I understand that loyalty in a game means so much to you, but for me it's not right to end a friendship just because someone wasn't loyal in a game. I want to say that I think people are more free to do whatever they feel like in a game and play it their way if they are not limited with friendship they have with a specific person.
In the end, we agree to disagree and i'm glad we have different opinions. :) koolness234
crimsonennui Thats what I feel like is the right thing to do from your side. I'm glad you did that because that's what I'm trying to say is the right thing to do in these situations. :)
redfabfoxy never said you were the one writing novels just said you are a fake and chronic liar in survivor, you confused or do you need me to repeat it???
1. You never said you join games to have fun and play so no I did not misunderstand your statement or misinterpret it. You never mentioned in the section I admir when I join games with these people to have fun little comments you repeatedly used the word YOU not ever talking about yourself unless I am suppose to infer that the YOU you mentioned 4 times was in reality yourself. So once again when bringing up your premade, I never misunderstood your statement if that paragraph above that was suppose to be your actions maybe refrain from using the 2nd person you 4 times and then trying to say it related back to yourself. Further saying you join to make memories only came in the paragraph in which you guessed it you used the word you 4 times. Sorry next time Ill assume when you use you, you are talking about yourself I guess. The only time you mentioned joining for fun was in your first response saying it all depends if I join for fun an that there are two ways you play the game. Either you join to have fun with your friends or you join to win. I am saying I dont have two different viewpoints of a game before I enter. I join to have fun, stay loyal, and win
2. Back to this comment that you apparently think I misinterpreted but in reality your wording of it doesnt leave it open for a misinterpretation.
"Yeah but if that person is your friend he also wouldn't judge you for playing the game and wouldn't call you a fake person and ruin everything because of an online game"
Saying if a person is your friend he would not judge you for playing the game means, that if a person did judge you by just that statement he isnt your friend. Once again not my words yours, and your comment wasnt misinterpreted maybe you typed it wrong but by the English you are using that is how the argument works. You cant say will if the person was your friend then they wouldnt do x and y, and then say I misinterpreted your argument by using the inverse of the logic. You essentially said by that English if someone was your friend they wouldnt do the following. So by following your logic if they did the following they were not your friend or a good one. Sorry once again your initial argument not mine
@rebfabfoxy Yawn then @ people and dont get upset when people misinterpret vague comments you leave that can only be directed at 2 people.
YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
LMFAOO in my first statement when I used the word YOU i meant "all the people on tengaged ever" including me and you and every other normal person. Like when you speak about something in general so you're talking to everyone like "you have to fight! You gotta believe in yourself etc". I mean, do I really need to tell YOU that I join games for fun, i thought you knew me better that I didn't really feel the need to use "I" specifically. But oh well.
Well koolness234 I told you in my last comment that you misunderstood what I tried to say, hence why I explained what I actually wanted to say. I didn't say you misinterpreted because I really didn't pay attention to the grammar so yeah that was my mistake. But if I explained what I wanted to say and you still bring it up.. lol.
Interpreting sentences aside, I think it's enough really. We have different point of views which is fine. I feel the negative energy arguing with you and we are going off the initial direction, so let's stop it there. Fun talk.
