I love both of these games very much. The strategy involved in both is thrilling and fun. I just finished my 3rd rookies. I found myself in a tight alliance of experienced players from the start. Towards the end I really felt that I was in a great position to win if I could get myself into the final 2. However, I stink at challenges (so that rules out PoV) and I left for the weekend and didn't have the opportunity to spam for the final HoH. I'm happy with 3rd...in fact, I'm happy with all 3 of my top 5 finishes so far. I just need to get to the point where I can get myself into the final 2.