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Final Tribal Council | Karakoram

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1566 days 4 hours ago
purplebb4
JAMES, JIMMY, COREY, please welcome the seven members of the jury:

JOSH, DANA, CHRIS, BRIAN, MEL, SILVER, and ALVARO voted out at the last tribal council.

Tonight, the power shifts into their hands and you must now state your cases as to why you should win this game while also answering their questions. You will be given until TOMORROW at 8:00 PM EST to post opening statements before the jury questions you! If you all post early, I'll open early!!

For the jury, your votes will be due on SUNDAY, January 12th, at 5:00 PM EST, Reunion should be at 5:30 or 6:00 right after!

Good Luck to everyone, thank you for a great season <3
1566 days 4 hours ago
purplebb4
I mean AM EST for the opening of the forum*
1566 days 4 hours ago
J2999
Hi Jury! I am to an extent shocked to be here, but very grateful and happy to, and glad to have played with you all throughout this game. I’ll probably accidentally ramble a bit, but will try to not go on too much. I’ll break this down to pre-merge being shorter, then vote by vote for merge, and a little overview at the end.

ORIGINAL TRIBES:
When the game first started, I was INTERESTED by my tribe. I had bad blood with Jimmy, positive relationship with Brian, then decent / sorta unknown relationships with the rest, just as we hadn’t REALLY played together. We lost, we voted an inactive, I saw this as time to just socialise and try build relationships. We won next challenge, where I definitely feel I proved myself as a tribe asset.

SWAP #1:
Come swap #1, I’m with Brian, Jimmy and Mel from my original tribe, all whom I have a solid relationship with. I now get to play with Corey, Kyle and Silver, the latter I have previously had a negative game relationship with, but wanted to fix. Anyway we won both challenges so won’t dwell here for too long!

SWAP #2:
My first REAL feeling of playing the game. I’m with Jimmy once again, perfect, with Josh now who I have a ton of trust with, with Alvaro who I was good with at the start. With Kyle who I don’t really have a relationship with, and Zyler who I’ve never spoken to. When we lose, my OG 3 of Alvaro/Jimmy/I are sticking together, and I was never voting Josh, but he flipped to us and we voted Kyle 4-2.
The next tribal, Zyler made two separate trio chats. One with Josh/I, the other with Alvaro/Jimmy. We ultimately all 4 not Zyler agree to do him, but Jimmy informs me that Alvaro wanted me out - which Alvaro told me later (which I’m grateful for and respected), but to be safe threw a vote IN CASE of an idol, but anyway Zyler left, cool beans. Jimmy told me about his idol at F13, and I think by being the first person to know demonstrates I had formed a solid relationship with him.

MERGE:
F10 - We now merge, awesome. I feel I have a decent relationship with basically everyone in the game. When the vote came around, Dana suggested voting Mel, which people seem to quickly get behind. Corey was trying to push it onto Chris, but I THOUGHT we were doing Mel and it would be 8-2. Nope. Josh gets blindsided 5-4-1. Thats a very very close ally of mine taken, and it’s frustrating. This was the first of at least twice I was told a move was made because of my relationship with someone, or it had INVOLVEMENT in SOME way. True or not, I’m not sure, but it happened.

F9 - This round, the 4 people who DIDN’T vote Josh (Brian, Corey, Jimmy and I) form a new chat where we plan the vote. We don’t plan it until near last minute, but it ends up being so - as we are aware Mel will flip - that Dana will receive 4 votes, and there would be a throw vote on Silver in case of 2 correctly played idols, as we knew Jimmy was playing his idol. On the other ‘side’, 3 vote Jimmy, and Silver votes Brian, but yeah Dana leaves 4-3*-1-1, and it’s as though the minority side have regained power.

F8 - Now with the minority chat in power, we can do what we want, so it felt. We discuss the vote, I mean PERSONALLY I’d have gone for Silver, and I believe Brian is the same, because Chris had informed me Silver wanted me out at F10, and I felt I needed to eliminate people targeting me. At this point, Brian and I were considering taking Corey out at F7, so when Chris proposed an alliance of Alvaro, Brian, Chris and I, we said yes of course, but like told Chris we would do Corey at 7 perhaps. Whilst we still wanted the vote to be Silver, Corey and Jimmy were leaning more towards Chris, so we just sorta went down like the middle with Alvaro, knowing he didn’t have an idol. Though the F4 with Alvaro and Chris WERE gonna vote Silver, I personally felt still mostly loyal to my minorities chat, but it ended up biting back and Chris got voted out 4-3-1 which really almost disappointed me, but like I understood he was a good player for sure and a close ally of mine.

F7 - This was hit and miss. Something in the back of me always told me that Brian was leaving , because I was immune for the round, but we tried anyway to pursue our plan to vote out Corey, along with Alvaro and Jimmy, but I was sort of transparent and still told Mel and Silver. But boom, Brian OF COURSE leaves 4-2-1. Of course! Jimmy votes Alvaro, Brian and I do Corey, the rest Brian.

F6 - I truly felt it was game over. I was SO CLOSE to immunity and to lose it at the very end, I felt defeated. But I refused to give up. My open thoughts, as only four of us (Jimmy, Mel, Silver and I) were vulnerable, was it had to be Mel or Silver. At this point Jimmy felt my one solid ally, who I didn’t think was going to vote me out. I campaigned and campaigned, and then the minorities chat revamped and we agreed on Mel. I would have been open to doing Silver, but Mel ghosted me which made me infer she was voting me, and subsequently she left 3-2-1. I was so relived to have survived this, but yeah it happened.

F5 - My second individual immunity! So INITIALLY in the minorities chat the talk is to do Alvaro. I realise I’ve got nothing CONCRETE down for a move I, James, specifically made, though I feel people in general didn’t as they were GROUP decisions. So I go to Jimmy and tell him that Corey and Silver are a duo, and we should 3-2 them before Jimmy and I end up in a tie at F4. Were they a duo? I don’t know for certain, but the points backed me up in being that they had never voted one another, a few times voted together, etc. And then Silver leaves 3-2, which I feel I played a decent part in like I could have let Alvaro go, but I also knew by saving Alvaro I’d quite likely have a person to save me at F4, as Alvaro told me Jimmy was down to vote me at F4. Would he have? Maybe, but I wanted to boost my odds.

F4 - This was quite an intense 24 hours. Like the blog proportion was pretty mental, but ULTIMATELY I won my third immunity, and feel content. I’m straight up open with Alvaro, I wanted F3 to be Corey, Jimmy and I since F6, because I feel we have had a similar path, so I vote Alvaro, though the PERSONAL side of me didn’t want to. Alvaro leaves 3-1, and that was all to it at the end of the day, unfortunate he came so far, but it had to be done.

Now at the end, I voted in the minority the same number of times I voted majority, though a couple were purposeful strategy votes. I feel I fought and put the most passion into this game, won some immunities, had a pretty good strategic game, and overall a very strong social game - a major example being Jimmy informing me about his idol. I could have given up, particularly at Final 6, but I didn’t and I continued fighting until the end. I played quite an honest game overall, which I am personally proud of because issues people often have with me is that I am too fake, but I ensured EVERY conversation I had was genuine, and I meant any thing I said to people. I’m glad I built better relationships with those I possibly had a poorer one with prior, and loved playing with all of you.

I’m open to any and all questions, excited to answer and explain anything you want in further detail, cheers very much for hearing me out, and many thanks to Bekir and Brady for hosting, I enjoyed it all - even the moment I hit rock bottom in the game and the odds were slim.
1566 days 3 hours ago
coreyants
I'll be posting my vlog soon.
1566 days 2 hours ago
coreyants
Here is my VLOG/finals speech. Feel free to ask me any questions!

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1565 days 15 hours ago
BB5lover
I'm not going to write some long ass novel or make a vlog because I'm not that desparate to prove that I played the strongest game out of the three of us up here tonight.

I can tell you write now that I was only left out of two votes this entire game. The one for 10th and the one for 7th. The rest of those were completely spearheaded by myself, and the reason the game turned out the way it did was due to my efforts of getting the correct votes at crucial times. Even when the game was not on my side, I had people that did not want to see me go home.

I threw every single immunity this game because I literally did not need to win one.

I had the only idol play that successfully cancelled out votes, yes at the time this was not majority because I prompted Mel to flip to our side at the time, but this made Chris unsuccessfully play his idol on Alvaro due to our feud, this wasted his idol and allowed the Dana vote to go through.

I can tell you that I was the most raw and genuine with every single player in this cast, if you lied to me first, you were dead to me. I can tell every single person in this cast with 100% transparency that the only reason that I would have lied to you, or voted you out was because, A.) You voted for me, or B.) You lied to me. So, while James and Corey blew smoke up both your asses the entire game, you can decide who you would like to see win, the one that was real with you or the ones that pretended like they didn't know you were going home and threw you a pity vote :).
1565 days 12 hours ago
TotsTrashy
Jurors don't make bitter juries, finalists do.

Everyone knows where my vote goes tonight. From the start of this game, everyone was aware that James was a threat to win and he is still sitting in one of those seats. He won immunity challenges, had a great social game (actually spoke to jurors! crazy concept!), and had people fooled into thinking he had an idol. That deterred people from writing down his name at crucial votes. James, you played a winning game and I hope you get enough votes tonight.

I have some statements for the Corey and Jimmy.

Neither of you gave me time of day this game. I did not get a single message from either of you. Maybe I would have felt a little more inclined to vote for one of you to win tonight had you said even hello. Or something along the lines that you respect we're on opposite sides. For much of Ponderosa and in my interview, I was actually upset with James for not even bothering to tell me you guys were voting me. You had a shot to play a better game or have a social connection with much of the jury. Instead, you both picked and chose who to talk to and at what time. Sadly, that's not how to win the game. You made the end for being goats. Alvaro and Silver deserved to be there next to James. So, congratulations on being shitty runner-ups.

COREY, you have something against me that's quite unfair. Ever since I won Julian's Ghost Island, you literally have made passive aggressive comments in his VL against me over petty drama from when I was like 15. That's over 4 years ago and you need to check your priorities. You sit on here every weekend and host that rigged ass Pink Box game or whatever the fuck for your coked up friends. Not to mention that you're sending cock ring pics to AlaskanFiredragon and ZacPed, who I rightfully slayed to the prejury vacation in Aruba. A lot of the jurors point out that you never spoke to them. Or when you did, it was when it was convenient to just you. Poor jury management and a big stomach to go along with it. Shave that neck beard or your growing unibrow and maybe you'd earn a pity vote.

At the first individual immunity challenge, you said this after you won:
omg ty <3
also no hard feelings to anyone
i didn't even know most of your names

Why should any of us vote for someone to win who is so inconsiderate after 6 rounds that they don't know most of our names? You were on a tribe with literally everyone but Alvaro premerge. That shows poor social gameplay and I'm just not voting someone who can't remember who is who. You also had a poor strategic gameplay. I'd say the biggest highlight of this was when you went psycho at the merge vote and basically sealed Josh's fate when you refused to vote for Mel and threw your vote on Chris. No one else listened to you and you looked a fool.

JIMMY, you obsessed f*g. Don't even try to claim this idol and negating votes bullshit. Alvaro, Chris, and I were kind of aware that you were going to play an idol. And when people went silent to me in the last hour, I had a strong feeling you guys were voting for me. It wasn't a blindside. I talked about it in a confessional and I kept telling my allies that my gut told me it was me and not Alvaro. You did nothing strategic that round. Silver told us you "weren't going anywhere." I didn't care. I was not ruining making up with Brian this game for your sorry ass. I would rather go to the jury as a threat to your pathetic game and write your name down at least once. I won't be writing it again.

And don't even try to claim throwing every single immunity as part of your strategy. Being too comfortable is SO cocky in Survivor and no one who ever says this deserves to win. Playing in challenges is part of the game. And it's disrespectful to everyone else who put effort into challenges and playing fair. Suck it up buttercup that you're just physically inept to catch up to Fat Corey. At least Corey can play challenges.

You were not raw and genuine. You barely fucking spoke to people. To claim every vote you went to was spearheaded by yourself is also cocky. No one fucking cares about your 4 paragraph speech. James explained his game in a novel. Corey explained his in vlog. Your solution is to type a couple sentences as a pathetic excuse of a speech because... you have nothing else to say. Your game is just that one dimensional that you don't have anything else to talk about for the jury to even consider voting you to win.

Thank you and goodnight.
1565 days 12 hours ago
coreyants
First of all, I have nothing against you personally and I'm sorry if you're mad about 1 comment I made in a VL. There's two jurors that I never spoke to in this game: you and Chris. It goes both ways. The reason I targeted Chris was because he never spoke to me either. I don't feel the need to talk to people if we're clearly on opposite sides. Why be fake? Why talk to someone when I just want to vote them out?
1565 days 12 hours ago
coreyants
ALSO when I said "I didn't know most of their names," I meant their REAL names.

I was specially talking about varlto's real name being Álvaro or IRandomal123's real name being Chris. I knew them as their username and hadn't talked to them prior, as I hadn't even been on a tribe with Álvaro prior to that.
1565 days 12 hours ago
BB5lover
Dana big mad LMAO.
1565 days 10 hours ago
cfff
Jurors don't make bitter juries, finalists do.

Hello final 3! Congrats on making it to the end, I am kinda sad this is the final 3 cause I was in a "final 4 with you all".

James - Things you did. That. I am so proud of you! People saw you as the biggest threat but you still convinced them to keep you at final 6. Very impressive! If I do vote for you tonight, I do not want people to think I am bitter since I was very close to you. I believe social connections are very important so if you just want to explain more of your social connections to certain players to the jury, I would love that :) Congrats again.

Jimmy _ I am happy you made it because you did not vote for me to go and Corey did to you what he did to me. My only negative thing about you is that you play so personal. You are sitting next to two people who I think can easily beat you because you did not want to work with someone you did not like. So please convince me why you think taking Corey to final 3 was better than Alvaro.

Corey - I do not know what was worse, that you made a vlog or that I listened to it lol. But the sad thing about it was that you lied the whole time in your vlog. Nothing seemed accurate. Do you know why James and I voted you at final 7? Because you lied to me about the Chris vote. You said that you were loyal to the people who were loyal to you. That is complete bull shit because I voted the way I said and you did not becuase people disagreed with you. I do think you played a good social game but I look at jury management. Why do you think you should win when you have horrible jury manangement?

Good luck and make the best man win :)
1565 days 10 hours ago
coreyants
Brian:

James said in his speech that you were already considering voting me out at final 7 before I even made that move. In fact, you had a chat with Álvaro and Chris, so that move was on the table even if we didn't vote Chris.

Jimmy and I both knew you were close to Chris and I personally saw him as a big comp threat. Why would I not go after him? I told you I wanted to do him and you were set on Álvaro. Keep in mind we could have voted for one of you two, but we didn't that round as I wanted Chris to go, not you or James.

I think I should win because I made the social connections necessary to get to the f3. I do not think my jury management was horrible as there's connections with other people who I did get to build throughout the game. I was loyal to the same people throughout the game and in fact, I really backstabbed very few people.
1565 days 9 hours ago
BB5lover
Brian: me and alvaro actually worked together towards the later stages, I just believe Corey is way less likable than someone who had an underdog story such as alvaro... why take someone with a completely different background than myself and risk his minority alliance voting for him instead of someone I could maybe tolerate winning
1565 days 9 hours ago
me2013
Congrats F3. Thanks hosts for casting me, I enjoyed playing after such a long break from group games.

This F3 was def predicted from day 1, except I saw Brian sitting here instead of Corey. Shame really because Brian would have gotten my vote.

I agree with both Brian and tots opening sentence.

Corey you let them carry you to the end and I can see why they did. I presented you all with a no risk opportunity to take out the biggest threat yet you lied to Silver and chose to keep hIm.
You made no effort with me so I won’t waste your time now.

Dana/Tots I actually have a question for you if that is allowed. Knowing that the only reason I flipped on you was because James showed me the screenshots of you throwing me under the bus, why then are you so quick to vote for him to win?
1565 days 9 hours ago
coreyants
1) I never lied to Silver. I told him I was voting you before the vote. You never communicated with me either after the first merge vote. So no you did not "present" anything with me. You let all our communication go through other people. It goes both ways, Mel.
1565 days 8 hours ago
cfff
awwww Mel you are so sweet!

@jimmy, thanks for that answers, nicely put.

@corey once again, you do not know what was going on.  We onyl thought about targetting you at f8 because Chris and Alvaro came to us about it. I even told James I was not betraying the alliance at final 8. Remember, you lied first :)

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