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Final Tribal Council [Maldives]

Topic » Final Tribal Council..

1401 days 18 hours ago
OldNewz
Welcome David and Sydney to the Final Tribal Council. The power now shifts to the jury who will vote for the Sole Survivor of Survivor: Maldives - All Winners.

Please welcome our members of the jury - Romeo, Matt, Hufus, Kelly, Mordecai, Ethan H., Dylan, Raul, and Ethan C., voted out at the last Tribal Council

David and Sydney, you may each make an opening statement. The jury members can either make comments or ask questions, there is no limit to the amount they do or don't say. Once you have decided who to vote for please mail both Mike and I your vote.

Jury, your votes are due Monday (7/20/20) at 8 PM EST.
1401 days 18 hours ago
DavidM7
I will post my speech later tonight, I have a paper due at midnight that I neglected for this finale lmao
1401 days 18 hours ago
Guigi
I won't be home for a bit so I'll post my speech when I get back.
1401 days 18 hours ago
DavidM7
Wow what a dedicated final 2
1401 days 17 hours ago
MrBird
My vote’s locked, but I know not everyone’s is, so I wish you both good luck, I’ve got no questions :)
1401 days 17 hours ago
Kelly2722
My vote is already decided but I’ll ask questions because that’s more fun.

Sydney,

Many members of this jury are extremely bitter towards you because they claim that you told white lies and were unnecessarily fake. So I wanted to give you this opportunity to tell your side to the story and what you think they may mean by that. Also, what do you think was your biggest game move this season?

David,

Of course something that bothered me this season is that I did not respect a lot of the players gameplay as they just took the easy way out with every vote and refused to make moves. However, with you I also just don’t respect you as a human because of some of the comments you made this season. At F11, speaking to Hufus/Raul(?), when you were asked about the vote, you responded “It’s whoever my side chooses and you’ll just have to go with it, that is the layout of this game.” You were also unnecessarily rude to me specifically after you blindsided me at F8. Most of the jury agrees that you had an awful personality this season so my question to you is how come your jury management was so weak knowing that the winner of this game is ultimately decided by a bitter jury?

Good luck Sydney, you deserve the win x.
1401 days 16 hours ago
DBWs
Sydney - Go thru each jury member and say whether they are more a Gus or a Mia
1401 days 16 hours ago
bigben1996
Congrats to both of you getting this far!  I'll be blunt and say it was impressive you guys got here as an obvious duo and very few individuals actually made a swing at ya.  However, that's how the cookie crumbles.

I will state though that voting either of you to win does not feel great based on everything that has happened in the game.  Both of you did have pretty poor jury management with me and that's kind of insulting based on the fact we've known each other for several years.  I'm leaning towards voting one way but my is somewhat open as I socially you were equally bad towards me.

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David - You were obviously someone that I wanted to work with and we got very close throughout the premerge.  I did throw challenges for you when my tribe easily could've just let you gone.  Heck, I even considered giving you my idol if you guys ended up going to a tribal which Hufus can verify.  I knew you'd come for me eventually but the problem that I have with you is that you were so quick to fling me after everything that happened in the game.  It felt very disingenuous and somewhat fake which is why I called you "Dawn Meehan" which as the "Brenda Lowe" in the situation rubbed me the wrong way.  If you don't get my vote tonight it's because it would feel icky voting for you.  Your game wasn't horrid despite having your bad social moments but you definitely could've worked on treating other players with a bit more respect.

Questions
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1. Why should I award you my vote based on how you handled the social situation between us?
2. How many hours were you obsessing in trying to get me out and round it to the nearest hour?
3. Compare each juror to a CBS Survivor winner and explain why?

Sydney - "Sherri Beithman" I did really try to work with you in this game despite our history (even though most of the time it's you coming for me).  My problem with you is that I do believe you were fake and constantly lied to me when I did try bringing you into the fold.  At least, David had the cahones to tell me he was coming after me once the Hufus vote happened.  You on the other hand continued to lie for no reason and that was annoying as David is your duo and that means if he's coming for me then that means you're too.  Anyways, I don't want your old excuse of "Ben we never have had good history and it's your fault that I'm coming for you"  trying to play the victim when you had been making plans with triple zero to blindside me for multiple rounds.  I had no officially plans to gun for you till you came for me.  If I don't vote you tonight it's because you were fake to a decent amount of us on this jury or could be viewed as someone who floated too hard despite playing a decent game.

Questions
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1. Rank the individuals from best to worst on this jury in how you feel your jury management is with them.
2. This is a gag question but judging you didn't vote me to win Leli's Survivor: Kyushu - Unfinished Business five years ago and continuously talk about.  Why shouldn't I follow the same course of action here?
3. Compare each juror to a CBS Survivor winner and explain why?

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Anyways, love you both as people but in the game you were both pretty bad.  I wish Brittney despite his game being somewhat flawed made it here as that's who I was rooting for coming into finale.
1401 days 16 hours ago
DavidM7
Opening speech

I know I lied a lot this game, in fact, I probably lied to each and every one of you at least once if not more. However, I will not be apologizing for that. The only one I owe an apology is Ben because it became a bit personal but he understands. The reason I won’t say sorry is because every lie I told had a purpose. I came into this season to play and that’s exactly what I did. This is a season titled “All-Winners” so I came into it with a mindset of getting the job done. I do respect your rights as a jury to be bitter  because that’s a valid way to vote, but I ask in return that you hear out what I have to say and consider me as a strategic force in this game.

The beginning:
Pre-game didn’t really exist for me. I’ve played enough games on this site to know that doing that shit never truly matters once we hit the ground running. However, pre existing relationships are what really impacted my game. Sydney and I knew without even talking about it that we would be each other’s ride or die so o had that. Dylan and I vibed after Bens all-winners so I knew we’d work well together. There were a few others that the pre existing bonds helped some; such as Raul or the Ethans but Dylan and Sydney were the big two.

20/19:
Jake had actually been someone I pregamed with because of a game we JUST played together but I barely know him and he was inactive so I didn’t care. Brandon was the vote that really kicked things off though. This made me realize that things were gonna be pretty divided because if they already targeted a big name like him then shit is gonna get hot fast. This also lit a fire under me because I really wanted to work with Brandon and losing him made me step up my social game a bit.

18/17:
I REALLY wanted to throw the challenge to fling Kelly0412 here but Ethan H was too good for his own good. Ryan using the two idols was great because it really solved early paranoia for me in terms of my targets saving themselves, however, I did lose Eric who I think would have been a great long-term ally so that sucked. But honestly he voted himself out there and it meant Matt stayed so I wasn’t too broken up over it. More just annoyed. This round is also where I was really able to establish my bonds with Dylan and Ethan H which comes in handy later when I get a bad swap.

16/15:
I hate to talk about this round but I can’t ignore it. I’ve already publicly apologized for the boot order here but since I took down the blog I’ll do it again: I’m sorry, I should have listened to everyone and gotten rid of Ryan first. No excuses. However, I do support Bens motives for pushing Kelly first given the direct impact he faced from Kellys actions. I on the other hand, do not have a valid reason and I’m sorry. Regardless, the order happened. These two votes honestly lacked much of any strategy from me because I was more concerned about taking out the people making the game incredibly gross and unfun. So if you have questions about my strategy this round, just assume it doesn’t exist. One thing that did come out of this round that played into my game was Raul. I solidified my tie to him here and this is where we really picked up on how much we would need one another. This bond continues into the next swap as well. I also bonded with Ethan C and Ben here which helped me when I got a bad swap.

14/13/12:
This is where that swap screwed. Thankfully is was a double tribal which meant we could really only go to tribal once (or so I assumed because I really thought merge was at 12 🤡). Even better though was my lord and savior Dylan O (DBWs) winning individual immunity for me. On that tribe it was clearly myself or Benp that would be leaving so I felt like immunity was necessary. Idk for sure if I needed it because Ben May have left before me anyway (due to my ties with Matt and Raul and even Hufus to an extent) but I’m glad I never had to find out. This is also where I picked up on my rivalry with Romeo which plays into the merge vote so we’ll come back to that. Anyway, Benp and Jake were thrown from the game but we did not merge and I was FLOORED. I knew if we went back to tribal again that I was fucked. Mostly because Hufus and Raul told me that to my face lmao. Thankfully, the other tribe knew I would be a number for them at merge while Marto was wavering between the two. They all agreed to throw the challenge to protect my pathetic ass 🥰. Thankfully merge was at 11 because if we don’t merge there I probably leave so praise the lord for that.

Merge: 11
So the merge really should have been straight forward because two sides but it was anything but that. My side (at the time) was on call for hours and never came to a decision. Meanwhile I have Raul in my PMs begging me non stop to “take out Ben now or he’s gonna win!” All with me trying to form some side thing with Sydney, Raul and Matt (unsuccessfully obviously since Matt is flung for 10th). Eventually (I think like ten minutes before the vote) I just tell everyone to do Romeo since that’s literally the name I had locked since the night before and I was tired of all this idol speculation. Romeo leaving here was imperative for my game because he’s one of the few I knew could spot my game if I let him sneak past a few votes. Not to mention he’s so outspoken that once he did figure me out, he would indeed put me on blast whereas people like Matt or Kelly were much more subtle about exposing people and I can handle that better than public exposure.

Final 10:
Was at work for the majority of this cycle so I’m not surprised I was left out do the vote, but that doesn’t mean it hurt any less. As I said, Matt was in my “master plan” to fling Ben at 9. I knew he understood where I was coming from at a strategic angle so it was very nice working with someone who was calm and rational (unlike Raul who flipped shit if I even mentioned voting someone who wasn’t Ben). The plan was to vote Hufus from the start but Dylan, Ben and the Ethans didn’t like that (mostly cause they were protecting Hufus as their number like Sydney and I were protecting Kelly/Matt/Raul). So honestly this was a good move on their part, however, they handled it poorly. I mean completely leaving me out of the vote seemed a little pointless since Raul more than likely doesn’t use his idol even if I told him AND it allowed me to pander to the other side by crying about being left out. My big takeaway here is that although I was in the minority, I still used this as an opportunity to pull the other side in and turn on Ben and company.

Final 9:
This is the first round that I think I really took control of things. So the original plan to fling Ben here took a backseat tbh because now we had Hufus flipping and Ethan H was a mole. I needed to still weaken Ben but without hurting myself in the process. So that’s where I really came up with the Hufus vote. He and I weren’t super close and since I voted him last tribal I knew he wouldn’t ever fully trust me again. Unfortunately, Kelly and Raul did not realize that Hentzel wasn’t really with us. He had them fooled for the most part. I was being fed info through both Dylan and Ethan about what their side was doing and how they were going about it. At this point, The plan is to just simply vote Ben while the other side was doing Raul. However, Kelly and company learned of Bens idol and talked a lot about splitting to waste both Raul and Ben’s idol. I think the split ended up not going through because of the other side possibly not splitting or something like that. Regardless, This sent me into what eventually came to be. I made a chat with myself, Brittney and Sydney where we agreed to vote Hufus in secret since the idols and splits would make 3 a majority (at that point anyway). So the idea to vote hufus was entirely mine. I made the chat, suggested the plan and put things into motion. Things changed however when Bens side decides to vote Kelly instead of the split on Raul/Kelly. The only problem with this plan was leaving out Raul and Kelly so I had to find a way to include them. First I went to Hufus to inform him about the plan to vote Ben (knowing full well that it was about to change), then I got confirmation from Dylan that Hufus did indeed leak my convo to Ben AND that their side was voting Kelly instead of Raul. This was all I needed to finalize the plan. With Ben knowing he’s getting at least a few votes (thanks to several people leaking to him) he was more than likely playing the idol IF Raul plays his correctly. I then had to convince Kelly and Raul to not only play the idol on Kelly, but to vote hufus along with me. I knew this had to be last minute because these two trusted Hentzel like no other even though he was clearly leaking info back to Ben and company. So like 10 minutes before the deadline I made a chat revealing nearly everything to them and begging them to vote Hufus or Kelly leaves. They did think that us three and maybe Brittney would be the only ones voting Hufus though which is why I was able to tell Raul to play his idol on Kelly even though I knew he wouldn’t need it since Sydney was also in on the plan. Also by leaving Hentzel out of the vote, I made sure Ben felt confident enough to waste his idol while we sent Hufus packing.

Final 8:
I think this vote shows just how adaptable I really was. Also, In hindsight I recognize this was a bad decision but allow me to explain my thought process in the moment.
1. I knew Sydney and Kelly were close which was bad news for me because not only was I worried about having Sydney to myself, but that meant Kelly was Sydney’s number while I had Raul so I wanted to make sure Sydney’s number on the other side went before mine.
2. I was fairly confident that Brittney would flip on Ben the following tribal so to me it was about getting out whoever I was least close to and that was Kelly.
3. Kelly correctly pointed out that I had an alliance with Sydney and Brittney so I was deathly afraid that he figured out my game. Not to mention he openly distrusted me so what would stop him from flipping on me at final 6 after we got Ben out for 7?
4. If Kelly does get Brittney out here, he becomes an amazing player to the jury. Not to mention he already had votes locked. So even though Brittney did become that exact thing, Kelly was clearly going that direction while I knew there was room for Brittney to lose votes.
Anyway, here’s what I did that round: SO I initially just wanted to vote Ben, however, both sides kinda turned down that idea so I had to get off my high horse and figure out a plan. Dylan/Ethan/Brittney/Ben were voting Raul at the start of the round while Kelly and Raul switched our vote from Ben to Brittney. I knew I could not vote Raul because he and I had been working together pretty closely at this point (even if we didn’t agree or even get along for that matter). I also knew I couldn’t lose Brittney because he was a number for me and he had agreed to vote Ben at 7 so really I didn’t NEED Kelly. So I went to Dylan and Brittney with the idea to flip the vote onto Kelly and then I would vote with them. Obviously we need one more so I sucked up my pride and talked to Ben (whom I know was probably convinced by Dylan or something) to let him know that I was indeed voting Kelly and not him. This move all but forced Raul to keep me as his closest ally while also taking out someone I perceived as the biggest jury threat next to Ben. Finally, I did not let Sydney in on this plan until the last minute because I knew if we were to sit in finals (like we are <3) then I would need a move that I did on my own.  SO in hindsight was this the best move? No. But looking at my logic in the moment I do think this was the correct decision and it was another move that I could at least partially claim.

Final 7:
I will admit, by keeping Brittney I did make this vote more of his move than mine. Although, I did know he would probably vote with us this round when I made the move to get Kelly so I wasn’t just going into this with blind hope. I knew Bens name was so big that it would be hard to ignore and I also knew of his options, my side was the more logical one for Brittney to choose because despite being on the bottom, he has less challenge competition with us, less jury threat with us and easier cracks to find (imo). So I won’t sit here and claim this was my move because I do think Brittney deserves the credit, but I didn’t go into this vote blind. Also, Dylan gave the idol to Ethan here which allowed me to really solidify my final three with Sydney and Raul. Ben, I know you are personally hurt by me in this game and I’m sorry on a personal level. I never meant it to be like that because I was in full game mode from the merge on. I should have been more empathetic and I’m sorry about that, however, I do think this was the best move for my game so I will not apologize on a game-level.

Final 6:
As soon as Brittney won immunity, the vote should have been pretty clear. However, I did consider Ethan’s arguments because I realized Brittney would be a comp threat and Hentzel would be the most likely to beat him. Ultimately, I knew my only chance to win a jury vote was with Raul and Sydney so I couldn’t vote either of them and I was protecting Dylan for as long as possible so I had no choice but to vote Ethan. This was the round I had my first vote cast against me because I think Ethan did not respect that I didn’t straight up tell him I was voting him. I don’t blame him for the move because I was trying to keep my options open and he saw through that.

Final 5:
This vote probably hurt the most. Before the game started, I genuinely wanted to sit with Dylan and Sydney in finals. But once it got down to the end, I knew I couldn’t just throw away the game I had worked so hard for. Although Dylan did stand a better chance against Ethan in challenges, if this was a final 3, I lose to him 10/10 times. Also, Sydney and I knew that Sydney stood a good chance in the final immunity so we knew it wasn’t game over. Along with that, I think Raul and I had a mutual understanding that we should never cut the other unless it truly is strategically beneficial and the Pros to keeping Dylan just weren’t enough for me to justify that yet. I was really hoping Brittney would have lost immunity because I wanted Dylan to at least get 4th if I could help it but once the reality came I knew I had to pull the plug.

Final 4/3:
As I mentioned, Raul and I had a bit of an understanding and I think we both kinda knew this was the time. Sydney was the one who could beat Brittney at the challenge so for either of us to have a chance we needed to cut the other. I do think this is where my relationship with Sydney helped because we really were never voting each other out so at worst it would have tied 2/2. As for the final 3, that should be obvious. We had been wanting Ethan out for rounds now so when Sydney finally beat him it was a clear decision to make.

Throughout this game I had several final 3s with people Most of which were with Sydney and one other person:
1. Brittney/Me/Sydney
2. Raul/Me/Sydney
3. Dylan/Me/Sydney
4. Kelly/Raul/Me
I knew I had a narrow path to victory so I did everything in my power to set myself up to get to the end in the best way I could.

Finally, Sydney I am so happy to be here with you. There really is no bad winner of this game because we played this game so well. I love you.
1401 days 16 hours ago
GiGi10
I don’t know a lot about either of your games seeing as we never really worked together. My questions/comments will be posted after I read your speeches.
1401 days 16 hours ago
bigben1996
All I’ll say after reading your spheal David is you did not make me comfortable at final nine.  I was probably playing my idol regardless till the split plan changed which triple zero told me about so you didn’t have an impact there.
1401 days 16 hours ago
DavidM7
David,

Of course something that bothered me this season is that I did not respect a lot of the players gameplay as they just took the easy way out with every vote and refused to make moves. However, with you I also just don’t respect you as a human because of some of the comments you made this season. At F11, speaking to Hufus/Raul(?), when you were asked about the vote, you responded “It’s whoever my side chooses and you’ll just have to go with it, that is the layout of this game.” You were also unnecessarily rude to me specifically after you blindsided me at F8.

I do think I made moves and didn't take the easy way out. In fact, I often went out of my way to make sure specific people left.
As for that comment, I believe that was to Raul (If it was Hufus I likely lied because I knew he was my next target and didn't wanna reveal my future plans to him) and I said things like that because Raul is one of the most blunt and straight forward people I've ever met so I knew I needed to just be frank with him. I don't know if what you quoted is exactly my wording but I often spoke to Raul in that manner because that was my way of being blunt. However, typically when I spoke like that I also continued with plans for the future. I kept telling Raul that I would vote with my side for now but there will be more. So I wasn't just stonewalling him and being cocky, but rather trying to preserve our relatioship so we could work together down the line.
And to you, I am sorry if I came across as rude but I genuinely don't remeber speaking to you much after you left at 8. So I would love to know what you are specifically referencing so I can apologize but as of right now I do not think I was rude.

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      Q: Most of the jury agrees that you had an awful personality this season so my question to you is how come your jury management was so weak knowing that the winner of this game is ultimately decided by a bitter jury?

I guess my answer would be that my personality isn't jury management. I ran into this same issue in HvV. I think my anti-social personality just shines through which isn't great for my soical game but I don't wanna change who I am to please a jury. Yout have every right to vote against me if you didn't like how I acted in this game so I can't fault you for that. But I also can't say I would change who I am to please you. Jury management was on my mind but I think I view it as more of a game respect game mentality rather than a personal basis.
1401 days 16 hours ago
DavidM7
All I’ll say after reading your spheal David is you did not make me comfortable at final nine.  I was probably playing my idol regardless till the split plan changed which triple zero told me about so you didn’t have an impact there.

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Good to know. That speech was my perspective of the game so I'm open to being corrected. I only recently discovered that Dylan gave the idol to Ethan so clearly I wasn't always in the know.
1401 days 16 hours ago
DBWs
Just had a question abt ur speech David -

"First I went to Hufus to inform him about the plan to vote Ben (knowing full well that it was about to change), then I got confirmation from Dylan that Hufus did indeed leak my convo to Ben AND that their side was voting Kelly instead of Raul."

I checked back in the convo and I didn't confirm any of that it seemed, you were just telling me that you were voting Ben that vote and I said I was voting Kelly (which our fake ass 6 said I was gonna do that vote). So I'm just wondering if you inferred that somehow or if it was someone else who confirmed that.
1401 days 15 hours ago
DavidM7
1. Why should I award you my vote based on how you handled the social situation between us?
Honestly, based on that I should not get your vote. Even after apologizing I still went ahead with my agenda to get you out. I played with an extreme lack of emotions and I won't pretend that I handled it well. After the Ryan situation, I wanted everything to just go back to normal. no more feelings. no more emotional decisions. no more crying. Dylan can attest to how much I just wanted a normal game. I let that desire cloud my relationship with you and it was not okay. So based on that situation, I don't deserve your vote.

2. How many hours were you obsessing in trying to get me out and round it to the nearest hour?
Okay Let me think.... I didn't genuinely start wanting you out until the merge probably. Before then was mostly a pliy to attempt to save my ass. so I would say about say around 5. most of that would have been at the hufus vote or the final 8. Obviously this is such a rough estimate because it was never long conversations about getting you out, more in short bursts.

3. Compare each juror to a CBS Survivor winner and explain why?
Romeo - Tony Vlachos
because he is such a compelling character that I just think would jump off the screen. Also he can be very confrontational and opinionated when he wants to be
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Matt - Yul Kwon
I've always seen Matt as a very sound and logical player. That's a lot of the reason for me wanting him as an ally from the other side at merge. He also just has a calming presence (especially among his side when they blew up)
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Hufus - Jeremy Collins
I can't explain this well but I think Hufus is generally likable and he has this presence that makes him fun to be around but also a bit of an in-game threat. I mean I was scared of him coming into the game just because I felt he was capable of doing really well.
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Kelly - Vecepia Towery
I think in this game Kelly had potential to play a game like Vecepia. although I don't know if the personality matches, they both recognized their position and had potential to capatalize on opportunities to get themselves further.
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Ben - Boston Rob
Idk this just seems to fit lmao. in this game you had a mob boss-like persona to you and I think you had the potential to pull it off. Not to mention you have always felt like a bit of a dominating personality so you just shine above the rest when it comes to entertainment and gameplay and just overall noticability.
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Ethan H - Earl Cole
Although I don't think this fits his gameplay necessarily, I think Ethan has a lot of qualities that Earl had to be calm while playing hard. I mean Ethan was playing the middle as best he could but never came off as slimy or bad. I just feel like Earl is the saem way because although he didn't play middle, Earl never seemed grimy after voting someone off.
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Dylan - Todd Herzog
Dylan is likable and strategically amazing. I also think he'd give one of the strongest FTC performances. In general I just think Dylan is one of the better survivor players on this site and since Todd is one of my favorite winners, it just makes sense to me.
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Raul - Adam Klein
Okay so I joked with Dylan about this but I cannot get this picture out of my head. Raul encapsulates everything about Adam to me. Raul was always on his feet every vote to try and make sure things were going his way and he never stopped thinking about game. Honestly if I had to imagine what playing with Adam was like, I'd think of Raul. He's always on and doesn't wuit til it's over.
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Ethan C - Parvati Shallow/Kim Spradlin.
I think Ethan played a very dominant game much like these two amazing women. He was playing with poise while still being good at comps and even ran the game at times. I also think his overall personal fits them because he was generally liked by the cast.
1401 days 15 hours ago
DavidM7
I checked back in the convo and I didn't confirm any of that it seemed, you were just telling me that you were voting Ben that vote and I said I was voting Kelly (which our fake ass 6 said I was gonna do that vote). So I'm just wondering if you inferred that somehow or if it was someone else who confirmed that.

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Oh shit I could have sworn this happened?
OH WAIT
It was Ethan C who told me that Hufus was leaking.

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