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Jury Questioning

Topic » Jury Questioning

1953 days 20 hours ago
bigben1996
Welcome Christian and Eoin to Final Tribal Council. The power now shifts to the jury who will vote for the Sole Survivor of South Africa.

We'll now bring in the members of the jury: Thomas, Kolby, JD, GP, Tim, and Benjamin voted out at the last tribal council.

Christian and Eoin you may each make an opening statement. The jury members can either make comments or ask questions, there is no limit to the amount they do or don't say. Once you have decided who to vote for please mail me your vote.

Votes are due by 3pm EST on December 16th (Sunday).  The reunion will be Sunday (time TBA).
1953 days 20 hours ago
Eoin
Day one, I came into this game, with nothing. In fact on day one, there was a school yard pick. I was the:

Last pick.

Nobody had any expectations of me, but I defied them.

Every single round this game, I voted in majority and received 0 votes. Traits of a perfect game. I have won two individual immunities, but purposely waited to late game to win them, knowing the target that it gave to other players.

I do acknowledge I have a lot of blood in my hands, I was aligned with basically every single one of you at one point, and the majority if not all, had saw some scenario where I sat beside them in finals, which left me in a tricky situation.

I tried to surround myself in situations which would allow other players to target each others, which is the reason why I took out JD for 6th, as he would not target Ben and GP for 5th, as going forward Tim and Ben were more likely to target each other so I kept them and it worked, Tim got 4th because Ben was shooting for him. It allowed me to navigate to the end with never been a target right until the end.

Some may say I was a sheep, that's fine, I didn't lead the charge at merge, I didn't want to. I waited, my numbers were down, when Andrew got taken out, I couldn't try and lead the other side. I couldn't play hard straight away or it would only result in myself becoming a target, instead i built those relationships, which allowed so many of you to trust me. Some may say I sheeped James, but I disagree, I was always ready to cut the threads when I needed him. I used him as a larger target than myself, so when people wanted to strike, they would strike for him as opposed to me.

I came into this game at the bottom, and rose to the top. I didn't stop fighting and I lead the end game, every vote I had went through, I was not a target until final 3, for all those reasons and more are the reasons that I should become the sole survivor!
1953 days 19 hours ago
Christian37
Hey jury. First of all i would like to say that english is not my first language so please dont hate on my grammar thank you.

This game has been a wild one and we have all played really hard, but today i am in the finale. There are alot of different reasons and factors on why i am in the finale, but when it all comes to it i did it through hard work and dedication and i am happy that me sitting up to midnight to compete has been worth it

Even though i never won a single induvidial immunity i didnt need it. I never needed it. This whole season i have received one vote. That is because i always put myself in a situation where i knew nobody would vote for me. I always watched my back and i made relations that did it for me too. If my name was thrown around someone would tell me and i made sure it didnt happen
I have made alot of promises, some i have not kept. I have made alot of sacrifices to get to where i am right now. I was always willing to make a move to get people i viewed as a threat out of this game. Even though some of them has failed i still stand here while they went out on one point or another.

On day one i tried to become a tribe leader simply because i wanted to get all the people i wanted to meet in f2 on one tribe. I failed. My strategy this season has always been to get rid of the people who most likely would beat me in a final. I did that.

Premerge included alot of easy votes but its important because the last remaining 5 of our tribe created an alliance and We went into the merge 5 to 5

We voted together during the first two merge votes. Then Jp was evacuated and that was the beginning of the end for our tswana only alliance. At final 7 i decided that there were too many big threats still in the game so i needed to get one of them out. The initial plan was to vote out kolby but i decided to vote for benjamin instead along with kolby and Gp.

This failed and kolby went home. Me and gp were alone but we had an f2 and we wanted to get to the end with each other. The next vote we get Eoin and i make a f2 with him too. My initial plan was to force a tie and either get Jd out if someone turned or go to rocks and get tim out. Tim joined us for the vote and JD went home. At the final 5 i did solething risky and went with eoin instead of Gp.

This turned out to be the right choice in the end. Gp sadly went. At final 4 i knew i had to vote tim. He was simply too big of an threat to have around the finale. Now we get to the final 3 and i had by this point put myself in a position where i knew my chances at making finale were big. I knew i wasnt winning the last challenge, but i needed Eoin to win , and he did. He took me to the finale and i am here now

Now i can only hope that my hard work has payed off. Playing this game while also focusing on school has not been easy but i somehow have made it here. I still feel there are alot of things i have not shared with you people so feel free to ask as many questions as you want and i will try to give you the best possible answer.

P.s i have my midterm tomorrow so i wont be answering much untill then but i will try okay.

Thanks to anyone who even considers voting me. I have played a quite game but that dosent meant it has not been a great one.
1953 days 19 hours ago
lionsden121
Ill start this off cuz im bored.

Eoin, I'm not gonna lie. I was going to be bitter only because I thought you voting me out was stupid because I thought I had no chance at winning this game. But after talking to the jurors, I think you lose to me in a close vote, so I will give you a chance at my vote. Only a chance, but its what you deserve.

So heres my question. When did you make the plan to somehow get Christian to the final 2? Because every time I brought up Christian, you straight up shot it down. In hindsight, I should have tried to turn it on you, but I dont know if I would have the power or social grace to try it. Also if christian or you win f4 who do you vote out me or ben?

Christian, you did not talk much. Either to me or the fellow jurors, I get English is not your first language. But do you think that was a bad move on your part, or just something could not control? I know for myself I wanted to reach out to you several times and never got a response. The jurors for the majority do not see much of a social or even a strategic game. What specific moves either strategic or socially earned you this win?
1953 days 18 hours ago
Christian37
Christian, you did not talk much. Either to me or the fellow jurors, I get English is not your first language. But do you think that was a bad move on your part, or just something could not control? I know for myself I wanted to reach out to you several times and never got a response. The jurors for the majority do not see much of a social or even a strategic game. What specific moves either strategic or socially earned you this win?

I totally wish i spoke more to some people but, again with school, language barriers and social anxiety it was kinda hard. But if i did not have a social game i would not sit here right now. My social game is what got me here because my physical sucked bcuz norwegian internet sucks. For strategic you have me trying to get out ben and you also have me making a f2 that got me here.
1953 days 18 hours ago
Eoin
lionsden121
So heres my question. When did you make the plan to somehow get Christian to the final 2? Because every time I brought up Christian, you straight up shot it down.

I never had planned to go with Christian for the longest time, I never had plans to take anyone in particular, I wanted to keep my options open with everyone so had strong bonds with everyone, which was the reason for my multiple final deals that I spoke about. I didn't know how the jury was going to form, and as I went through the game, I learned that Christian would be the best option to take to the end.

In hindsight, I should have tried to turn it on you, but I dont know if I would have the power or social grace to try it. Also if christian or you win f4 who do you vote out me or ben?

I would voted out Ben, I would have preferred to go to finals with you, as Ben would have steamrolled me more than you.
1953 days 18 hours ago
BENLINUS
Alright, firstly congratulations to you both for being here. I think there's a few of us who definitely feel a little underwhelmed by the options we have tonight, but nevertheless I think we need to suck it up ... simply because you are the only two who managed to outlast here, and one of you will be winning no matter what. So well done for being here no matter what I may say next.

Firstly, I'll start with Eoin

Eoin, you and I never really spoke game until maybe the final eight or so? I found it hilarious when people would say "Eoin is just following you" or "Eoin is your sheep" because we were just sitting round talking about tv shows and whether or not I should watch The Circle. I do understand why you got such a label, and I think it was generally down to the fact that when a vote was being made, you were being told what others had already decided, and by your own admission you were sleeping during the first portion of the game. Whether or not that was strategy, it does somewhat make me question how deserving you may be. HOWEVER... the fact remains that a lot of predictions came true in that the loud crazy people ended up taking one another out, and you were able to slowly nudge up your game in these final rounds to the point that you're looking a lot more credible than your fellow finalist tonight. I firmly believe that whilst you may not be the most deserving, or flashiest... player this season (maybe not in my top three), you still undoubtedly had a much more successful and influential game than Christian. You certainly had some luck on your side (GP/Christian's flip bringing you into another end game plan), but as you said you were able to navigate the last few votes to the point that if you could get Christian to the end, you would win. You succeeded in doing that, and sending JD/GP/Tim/Myself to the jury. I don't hold any bitterness in my heart for being voted out, as I think it was undoubtedly the right decision on your part and you know I'd have done the same. I'm leaning heavily towards voting you tonight, and what I need from you is a response to the following...

- By your own admission you slept for a lot of this game and laid low, and whilst you say it was strategy, do you think it somewhat knocks your credibility given that it put you in a position where there may have been fewer people you could win against? Or do you think that the strategy would have been a success even had one of the louder individuals made it to the final tribal council?

- Rank the jury and the final two from best to worst in terms of overall gameplay. You can do a short sentence with each just to clarify why.

Good luck! And unless something goes horribly wrong you will likely be receiving my vote tonight.
1953 days 18 hours ago
Survivorgame1
Hey Guys!
I want to say congratulations to both of you for making it to the end, absolutely no bitterness towards either.

Christian: I am definitely closer to you than Eoin. I know people might say youre undeserving or a follower , but you did make it to the end by timing your flipping and getting included in plans so great work on that.

Eoin: Like you said, you didnt play a super flashy game at the beginning but you really showed out in the end game. You played the end game that I was trying to play and clearly you did it much more successfully than me! Congrats on that.

My question to you both: What was your biggest mistake in this game? And why?

Thanks!
1953 days 18 hours ago
Eoin
- By your own admission you slept for a lot of this game and laid low, and whilst you say it was strategy, do you think it somewhat knocks your credibility given that it put you in a position where there may have been fewer people you could win against? Or do you think that the strategy would have been a success even had one of the louder individuals made it to the final tribal council?

I don't think it would have been successful, that was part of my strategy. Compare my strategy to Adam Klein - David, Jay and Zeke may have played flashier games but he kept them in to take each other out. Like it's hard to answer if it would have been successful, because that was my whole strategy to allow big characters to take each other out. So if I didn't do that, then no I don't think I perform well against them.

- Rank the jury and the final two from best to worst in terms of overall gameplay. You can do a short sentence with each just to clarify why.

You - Win hands down against anyone.

JD - Also a strong winning contender with good social bonds.

Tim - A scrappy underdog who may have been brash but kept on surviving. Reminds me of a lot of modern survivor winners.

Kolby - A lot of potential if he stayed in, so it's hard to place him, but someone I saw as a very strong player.

GP - Never built a strong bond with him, and not someone who was able to build up trust, however, I admired they got themselves out of difficult situations.

Thomas - Did not contribute much of anything to the game.
1953 days 18 hours ago
BENLINUS
Now onto Christian...

Firstly I want to say I adore Norway as a country, and I love Norwegian people... so I hate having to write this speech but it's coming because I don't discriminate.

I really don't know what to say to you. I approached you early on in this game, and you kind of replied, not too much... not too little... it was almost minimum effort from you on a lot of occasions. You were outside the majority alliance on our tribe, and ultimately were spared when you were targeted by certain individuals because you had myself and JD looking out for you. Then throughout the merge, you kept safe because you were on the right side, not because you in particular were involved in any decisions, or that you were socialising to save yourself. Several jurors have complained that you didn't talk to them, and that when you did talk it was like speaking to a wall because your replies were loaded in apathy. Myself included, have asked you why you bothered to ignore me for two days when you were turning on me, as it shows a complete lack of game on your part. You looked suspicious, and ultimately lazy. GP had the clue to at least lie and try to make it a blindside, whereas you just decided to shut down perhaps so you could try and get one up on the others pulling a "but I didn't say I wouldn't vote you" card. I really could go on and on about the weaknesses in your game, and why I think you'd virtually lose a final tribal council against anyone who reached the end game, but I think that would be a waste of both our time.

Instead... I want to just reply directly to your opening speech.

- You never won immunity because you never needed it. This is weak, especially as you could have gone home at the final five had people said your name over GP's. The reason GP went home was because he was stronger than you... you didn't survive through social coercion or strategy, you survived due to being weaker than your counterparts.

- You say that YOU succeeded in getting out your targets. But then later admit you failed at the final seven to vote me out. Why? Because we had Eoin and Tim on side, because they had no reason to work with you when you'd laid no ground work there. JD goes home next, you were apart of that... but JD left because Eoin and Tim made that decision to move, and succeeded in what you'd previously failed in. Then the following round you turn on the one person you supposedly stuck with, and say it was "sad" and tried to sulk after... but you voted him... perhaps you're hoping that'll butter up GP for a jury vote, but either way I look at it as a poor move on your part, and one that was happening either way without your contribution.

I mean this line "Me and gp were alone but we had an f2 and we wanted to get to the end with each other." just makes your F5 game play as confusing as your poor explanation for your failed flip at the final seven.

- You say you needed Eoin to win so you could make it to the end, which then doesn't explain your attempts to say YOU positioned yourself to go to the end. I was taking you to the end... I'm sure GP would take you to the end, because people want to win the game, and taking you to the end was a way to make that happen. Being weak so others take you to the end and having no real story to back yourself up with is not strategy, and apathy should not be considered a legitimate way to play the game. I criticise Eoin also for his lack of drive for a big portion, but unlike you he stepped up and made things happen at the last moment, and it paid off for him. He drove you both here from the final six, you sat in the passenger seat. 

Christian, I know that I'm being harsh on you here but I genuinely see no way you deserve to be crowned Sole Survivor over someone who legitimately played the game from at least the final seven. You had no influential moves that were YOUR moves. I've seen you play before in my own season, and I know you're capable of better than what you displayed here... you say you have social anxiety and English isn't your first language, but please don't let that prevent you from playing the game. Your English is perfectly fine and understandable, and you're a nice enough guy who could easily make bonds and be a really good social and strategic player... I just don't think you applied yourself at all this time around, and as a result I can't vote you tonight.

I hope if anything this game can show you how you don't win Survivor. I wish you luck for the future because I think you know you're capable of better than you displayed in this game, as we've both seen that in the past. Good luck nevertheless, and congratulations on making it further than me.
1953 days 18 hours ago
Eoin
My question to you both: What was your biggest mistake in this game? And why?

A lot of people are expecting me to say, not playing a flashy game but that's why I'm here. Because I was able to only play a flashy game when I needed it.

My biggest mistake was probably, not, showing to people that while playing a non-flashy game that i was playing a game.

Some people were under the assumption I sheeped, but that wasn't the case so much, I played as hard as most people. That's why I was able to put myself in this situation.

I think you can say the difference between me and Christian's game, is that I didn't play a flashy game, but I was still working behind the scenes and I worked to put myself win by making decisions and moves, while winning challenges. Christian kind of just sat and was told what to do.
1953 days 18 hours ago
BENLINUS
@Eoin

Last thing, where would you put yourself and Christian on that ranking?

I'm satisfied with the first answer though it was v tasty. Whilst I think JD would beat me in a F2  (he and I discussed it, and he said he was more social and I was more strategy, I think this cast would appreciate social more) I am grateful for the compliment lol.

We love a reverse Gambia FTC - this has been a three year redemption arc in the making
1953 days 18 hours ago
Eoin
BENLINUS
@Eoin

Last thing, where would you put yourself and Christian on that ranking?

Christian second to last, below GP and above Thomas
Myself, probably below Tim.
1953 days 17 hours ago
Christian37
My question to you both: What was your biggest mistake in this game? And why?

Probably not beign better social. Its just that i find it extremely hard to socialize with people in general. Most talks i have had this game has been generic and straight up awkward. If i could change one thing it would have been my social game.
1953 days 16 hours ago
Christian37
@benlinus -  And i totally respect your decision. I can tolerate criticism and harshness, believe me. I have received it almost everyday for the last 3 years, it isnt new to me. Reason i joined in voting GP was because i needed eoin to trust me so he could take me to finale.
1953 days 11 hours ago
bigben1996
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