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FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL

Topic » FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL

1614 days 6 hours ago
nathorix
@Jayson

I think I deserve to win over the sitting beside me for one simple reason; I had a totally different game from them. Both of them on some point relied on idols or "going with the numbers", while I stayed true to who I was. I voted in the minority even if I knew I was because I wanted to say true to that person. I didn't have to rely on idols, and survived two really tough votes WITHOUT them. I cant say these two can say that.
1614 days 5 hours ago
Bvance1212
BLAKE

1. I would like you guys to rank each juror from who played the best game to who you think played the worse game and give reasons as to why.
BEST
1. Natalie- Honestly, I believe Natalie played the best game out of anyone in the game, including the f3 that are currently sitting in front of you today. He was able to wiggle himself out of some really hard situations and I commend that. Played a really good, complete game. I would’ve voted for him more than likely in the end depending on ftc
2. Jayson- In my opinion, Jayson played an extremely good social game that resulted in everyone liking him and wanting to take him to the end. He was a major threat to everyone’s game at the end of the day and that’s why he was idoled out.
3. Blake- Hes said to me multiple times during the day that he left that he wasn’t a jury threat at the end. I truly believe he was because everyone liked Blake. Everyone had some sort of deal with Blake moving forward and that’s dangerous because it shows how well he was playing socially.
4. TJ- I rank TJ here because without the one day tribes, I felt as though tj would’ve stayed in the middle a lot longer and lasted a really long time. He’s made it almost to the end multiple times in this series. And that’s not luck. It was a social ability to play the middle.
5. Max- Even though I never really talked to max and vice versa, I know for a fact that he can go on an immunity run if he so chooses to do so. He’s a really good strategic player and has the ability to flip a game onto its head. Just like TJ, I believe he was fucked over by the idols and 1 day tribes.
6. Kolby- Okay, this might seem a bit high but let me explain, Kolby was a wildcard and was able to cause giant riptides in the cast. If I was voted off at 12 I could definitely see Kolby sitting in one of these seats tonight. He was able to cause mass panic within people and that’s dangerous in a game like this that’s built on trust.
7.AJ - Aj was in a really good spot but ended up getting blindsided. If aj was more active I could see for sure that he would’ve played a lot better and would’ve skyrocketed up this chart.
8. Lilly- even though you quit because of personal reasons, I’m placing you here because of the way you ran premerge with me. You played really well and I believe that if you were able to play in the merge, you would’ve done extremely well, but we don’t know. So I have to rank you here.
9. Logan- Hoop ily buddy but I just felt as though you should rank here due to the matter of you flipping to try and help me and getting taken out for it.
10. Livingston- Man, I love you kid but socially, you were no where to be seen and you weren’t the best at challenges. You know this already but I have to rank you here

2. I want you to tell me what you think your BEST move was and what your WORST move was.
BEST MOVE
This might sound a bit weird but the move I regret the most is also going to be my best move.
The TJ vote
This has to be my best move in the game because I was able to control this From the minute that the tribes we’re announced. I put myself in the swing position where my vote would determine who goes home. At the end of the day, even though TJ wanted to work with me, I had to reward the people who are loyal to me moving forward.

WORST MOVE

this one has to be not sticking with my gut on the Blake “vote out”
I already had a vote for Blake written down until the last second when I went against my gut and voted out Natalie instead of keeping my vote on Blake. The result remained the same but I put my ally Nathan in Trouble along the way and that’s on me

3. Out of the people sitting next to you, who deserves to win more?
In my opinion, James deserves to win more than nathan. Even though nathan was my ally I cannot deny that James played a better game. He did what Nathan did but was better at it and I just have to give props to him there.
4. Whether you were an all star or a flop star, how did you either overcome the stigma or maintain your title? Aka, how did you maintain being an all star or how did you turn from a flop star into an all star?
I believe that I turned from a flop star into an all star for The sole reason that I was actually able to socially maneuver my way around this cast. In ghost Island, after I miss played my idol, I got too confident in my relationships with everybody in the cast. It was the main reason why I ended up getting voted out. This time around, however, I was able to keep working on those bonds that I’ve already established, and make sure they are solid moving forward. And I truly believe that I did that.
1614 days 5 hours ago
J2999
BLAKE: (I will answer your questions over the span of three posts)

1. I would like you guys to rank each juror from who played the best game to who you think played the worse game and give reasons as to why.

BEST:
1. NATALIE - Natalie played a ferocious game demonstrating elements of strong physical, but equally just as good social, such as having other players give her idols, going from supposedly being on the bottom at Final 11 to being one rock draw away from making the end, demonstrating a good read of the game and equally well thought strategy.

2. BLAKE - I ranked Blake second because I think he had a pretty strong social game. He was able to be in a position where he could easily voice his opinion, received a limited number of votes. Had he not been unlucky in the F6 FMC, he would have had a very good chance of making the end I do believe, and possibly winning.

3. JAYSON - Jayson is another who overall I do feel actually had a very good social game. Many people felt comfortable with him throughout the game, allowing him to get to 6 without any real doubts. I had a rocky relationship with him prior to the game, but his social game allowed ME to feel comfortable enough to idol him at 6, and had he not been double idoled out at 5, I wouldn't have been shocked to see him make the end.

4. AJ - I would rank AJ high personally, I'm unsure if the people who made top 7 would disagree or not due to him being ranked as playing for second, maybe it's my closeness with him that influenced this choice as I felt like I had a very good read on AJ's game. I knew about when he got an idol, I felt comfortable enough telling him about mine, I think his social game was strong and had it not been for my presence could have made the end, as I think he had a good strategy to perhaps save physical skills to the end to maybe have a blow-out last few comps, to take the crown.

5. TJ - I think had TJ made it past this round, he could have been pitted the biggest target, which goes one of two ways. It either allows him to put himself firmly in the drivers seat and take the game home, or he gets 8th/7th/6th as he is pitted as such a threat by other players, either truly could have happened, and I would not have been shocked either way, hence I put him midway.

6. MAX - Max was just unlucky I truly believe. I don't think he properly got TIME to play as such, YES he got half way through the game, but I think had he been on the opposing one-day tribe, or made it to Final 8, he would have been able to use a combination of his physical and social skills to further himself to at least final 5, quite possibly final 4, and maybe even final 3.

7. LOGAN - Logan had decent gameplay during his time in the game, he survived the one-day tribes, had a good social game whilst he was in the game. Logan just was unlucky how everything fell for him that round, he had POTENTIAL to go a lot further, though I do feel it would have been a struggle for him as people seemed down with getting him out, so if it didn't happen at 8, it easily could've at 7 or 6.

8. KOLBY - YES Kolby was merge boot, but I rank him here for his impact. Like despite coming into merge as the most transparent player who many people wanted gone, Kolby WAS able to force a 6-6 tie the first merge vote, socialised with all players, he was involved in idol plays premerge, he fought his way and if the 6-6 tie had gone in his favour, I do think it is possible he could have manoeuvred his way to the end, or at least nearer to the end. 

9. LILLY - Lilly gets ranked 9th as I didn't properly get to experience her game. I do think had she not walked she would've gone a lot further, most likely making top 7 at least I believe. I cannot say too much about her game as we only got to play a couple rounds, and not experiencing a merge vote with her just allows me to go off of my ASSUMPTIONS, hence I would rank her here.

10. LIVINGSTON - So like though this may not seem like it based off of what I say, I do feel Livingston was playing a good game and I know he GENERALLY has a strong social game. Personally I didn't experience it this game, but frequently people view that as a strength of him, so others may have experienced it! I rank Livingston here because well he was in a poor position really that people were easily able to flip on him, and when I didn't get much socialising from him, I feel I struggle to rank him as having a higher-positioned gameplay rank as opposed to other players.
1614 days 5 hours ago
J2999
BLAKE PART 2:

2. I want you to tell me what you think your BEST move was and what your WORST move was.
BEST -
Well I don't want to say something related to my idol plays, I want it to be a more natural move that didn't need any gimmicks to allow to occur. SO, I will honestly go with the Kolby vote at Final 12. YES Kolby was not my initial preference to leave, but my decision to vote Kolby when I knew it was going to be a close vote, and my partial influence I think I had with TJ flipping at revote, allowed me to position myself almost directly in the middle of the cast. By choosing this move, I knew I had put the numbers technically on the side with Billy/Livingston/Nathan, when I knew I wanted to work more-so with the OTHER side, but by doing this I became a valuable member to either side who felt they needed me, which is why I never received a vote during the merge portion of the game until Final 5. Would I have received votes earlier without immunity? Maybe, but I didn't. So yeah I think my best move was my strategical decision at F12 to vote with the side I didn't intend to stick with, as it would allow me to continue in the game in a way I could keep the numbers balanced on either side, choosing my personal targets to leave based on what I saw working best.

WORST -
I will say I think my worst move was sometimes being TOO transparent. Such as with Final 7, I did tell Nathan I was writing his name down, which I think gave him even more motive and reasoning to be able to flip the vote off of himself and onto AJ, and then again at 6 and 5, though in them situations voting time was shorter and I knew being honest would boost my odds of people respecting me, which it did, so that part worked. But yeah sometimes I was maybe too transparent for my own good, and may have influenced other people suffering for it.

3. Out of the people sitting next to you, who deserves to win more?
Out of Billy and Nathan, I would have to say Billy deserves to win. For the whole game I saw them as a pairing, with Nathan the more physically strong, but Billy the more socially strong, hence me writing Billy's name down at 5 and again 4, not Nathan, as I knew I had a good reading on the game and felt as though Billy definitely posed a bigger threat at the end than Nathan did, based on Billy's strong social abilities.
1614 days 4 hours ago
J2999
BLAKE PART 3:

4. Whether you were an all star or a flop star, how did you either overcome the stigma or maintain your title? Aka, how did you maintain being an all star or how did you turn from a flop star into an all star?

I definitely was a Flop-Star, being the second boot after merge in Tuvalu. I certainly feel I became an All-Star by boosting my social game to the point I ensured that I was comfortable as then I could make MY moves. By creating a trio chat with AJ and Blake, which later had Jayson added, it meant that I knew I could comfortably target Livingston without it getting back to me, I knew I could tell them about my idol (the first one I did), I ensured that I controlled my fate, whereas in Tuvalu I was more heavily reliant on other people to help me out. If you want something done right, do it yourself. And I did. And that is why I am sat in the Final 3.

ALSO I will state in response to something seen above, I NEVER 'went with the numbers'. Any vote I made was of either personal preference (which 8 of my 10 tribals I DID do this), or valuing my allies' thoughts and viewpoints  and preferences (which I did do at the other 2 tribals), though even though it was valuing and going with what they said, of my personal choice I would have done exactly the same, so EFFECTIVELY 10/10 of my tribals I voted the way I wanted to, not because 'oh I need to go with the numbers'.
1613 days ago
OhNatalie
I just wanna say it was a pleasure to play with this cast, but especially with the three finalists <3. You three are very deserving in your own way which is making it incredibly hard for me to vote on a winner. Hopefully these set of questions will help me make a decision.

QUESTIONS

BILLY - In your speech, you talked a lot about the alliances you had and the trust you worked so hard to build with others. So, I want to know what relationship in this game was the most valuable to you, and why?

JAMES - Since you say you played a fantastic social game I would like to test it. It's Christmas, so what is one thing you would gift each juror this holiday season, based on the things you learned about us or the conversations you had with us.

NATHAN - Focusing on the theme of this season, "Flop-Stars" I want you to look at your fellow finalists and give me 1 thing they did this season that makes them a flop, and 1 thing that makes them a star. I'm not entirely convinced that you were present throughout this game, so I want you to judge the other two and give me your perspective.
1612 days 21 hours ago
Bvance1212
BILLY - In your speech, you talked a lot about the alliances you had and the trust you worked so hard to build with others. So, I want to know what relationship in this game was the most valuable to you, and why?

This relationship to me is one of the closest bonds that I have while playing this game and it was the bond that I had with Jayson. We talked everyday for multiple hours regarding game, personal, his work, my love life, my school, or his possible job move taking away his social life outside of tg. He’s the person I wanted in the end regardless of whether or not I won or lost. He was my ride or die from day one. This is the bond that was most valuable to me in this game because I really trusted Jayson from day one. He would let me know if he was voting different than me. We didn’t have exactly the same gameplan, but I would say our talks were half gameplay and half actual talking to each other about life. And that’s a bond that I cherished regardless of him telling me that i should cancel on my gf for the finale or this game LMFAO.
1612 days 20 hours ago
J2999
NATALIE:

JAMES - Since you say you played a fantastic social game I would like to test it. It's Christmas, so what is one thing you would gift each juror this holiday season, based on the things you learned about us or the conversations you had with us.

Lilly - Honestly a nice game of Cluedo maybe! My main like conversation point with Lilly was on Detective night, so it only seems fitting.

Kolby - Exactly WHAT I cannot pinpoint, but it would certainly be something more adventurous and unique, because that's the kind of character Kolby is.

Livingston - A survivor buff he doesn't have! I know Livingston has some, so yeah I'll pop him a purch for one he doesn't have.

Max - Seeing as Max is a college student, something that he could just use to chill with at college or something !! Again I cannot pinpoint what exactly as I am not a college student, I don't know what would be beneficial, but something college-chill-related would be my thought process.

TJ - Well I know TJ is my age, just about 8 months older, and clothes seem to be a key thing I like sorta aim to get if and where I can, so I guess some clothes / money towards getting clothes !!

Logan - Perhaps a book. From talking to Logan I know he's quite an intellectual guy, and would enjoy a book, so yeah a book by an author he enjoyed, or on a topic he enjoyed if I were to go down the non-fiction route.

AJ - Something MUSIC-related could be a hit, maybe a KPOP album, maybe some type of instrument or something he would possibly want, or honestly whatever he asked for I'd do my best to deliver because he delivered top loyalty throughout!

Blake - Maybe another Home Alone type of jumper to be an alternative to his other Christmas jumper he has !! There is a ton I could think of buying Blake though in reality, but yeah that fits well with CHRISTMAS.

Jayson - I'd PAY Jayson a trip to his new work place 50 mins on a good day away from home !!!! But honestly I could get some like chocolates or some type of food selection, because hey food is a good way to chill and as I discovered this game Jayson is actually a really chill cool guy.

Natalie - Maybe a weekend trip away or something because wow you deserve it after the target you had since day 1 yet made top 4!!! Or honestly something like as simple as a bear carrying a sweet message, because particularly from F11 onwards, my convos with Natalie felt sweet and genuine, so a sweet and genuine bear does the deal!
1612 days 18 hours ago
BBlover96
Tbh if I was getting a gift y’all should know what it is but if I get exact brand name I’m voting for u
1612 days 18 hours ago
BBlover96
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