That mass shootings would happen regardless because of the shooters mental state is kinda inadequate and honestly shows a lack of logical thought. Countries with gun laws have a significantly less percentage of mass murders, yet relative to their population have around the same amount of people with serious mental disorder. So if people are going to harm people regardless there would still be significant mass murders in countries without gun laws but there is not so your logic does not work out. It is a lot harder to injure 400 people and kill 50 if you cant stand from a hotel building and rain down on people with your 12 rifles
yeah but the rate of firearm-related deaths is decreasing anyway, despite our lax gun laws. the media blows up the seriousness of guns honestly. there are much less shootings, they are just more lethal and therefore get a bunch of media coverage. the rate of gun deaths last years is slightly more than half of what it was in the early 90s!
ohheydudeski yeah but gun control is about making it harder for them do it.
You cant go into your department store and purchase stuff to make a home made bomb without being instantly flagged. How would you propose that this person would injure 400 people and kill 50 in the time span he did. The argument you are saying is that fucked up people will hurt people regardless, which no one is arguing because we all understand that it is true. The argument that gun control is actually advocating for is that we need to make it harder for these fucked up people to hurt people. So I dont see how with your logic you would disagree honestly
Brazil possesses high rates of violent crimes, such as murders and robberies; depending on the source (UNDP or World Health Organization), Brazil's homicide rate is 30-35 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants,[2] placing Brazil in the top 20 countries by intentional homicide rate.
justme those are external terrorist cells embedding themselves in a country and their occurrence has no significance to French gun laws. We are not talking about terrorist bombing here
koolness234 so you don’t think this was terrorism? People kill people because they’re demented. They use whatever they can whether guns, bombs or planes. Shall we outlaw aircraft as well??
koolness234 i mean i feel as tho there are bigger problems we need to deal with. hundreds of people die in car accidents every day so why aren't we trying to make stricter driving laws?
koolness234's point is spot on- crazy people will still try to do crazy things but at least don't give them the means to buy 12 rifles from the fucking local walmart justme if a 64 year old man could casually buy an aircraft and pilot it to kill and injure hundreds of innocent people i'd advocate that being banned too
zuelke stricter driving laws are literally introducted year by year
koolness234 people are literally too stupid to see your point and bringing up irrelevant, nonsensical points to try and look smart, no use trying to even have a thoughtful debate on tengaged
justme no sue honestly first of all I never said we should ban guns that is words you put into my mouth and I would appreciate if you would refrain from doing that out of respect. I never said we outlaw guns I say we make the vetting process harder and more strict. I say we limit the capability of fire arms citizens can own. Furthermore, this was an act of terrorism home grown but still the statistics and the process behind bombing and gun control is completely different. Furthermore, the US has more citizens to citizen gun related death than any casualities we have lost in overseas wars for the past 40 years
koolness234 I agree with that. Sorry I misunderstood your post. Yeah we def need stricter vetting for gun purchases but that’s state to state I think cus it’s hard to get a permit in Indiana
JustMe on ur point about planes, the purpose of an airplane isn't to kill people - it serves another central purpose which is to provide a method of transportation
a gun's only purpose really is to inflict harm and to kill, especially the arsenal of guns that the shooter had with him lol so that part of your argument where you ask whether aircraft should be banned (considering that some people use planes to inflict terror) to discredit the argument in favor of gun control isn't very strong
justme i mean even if you didn't misunderstand him and if he was arguing that guns should be banned that point would still be moot loool im calm sue im just sayin
finklestein123 the point is that even if guns are banned psychopaths will find a way to commit mass murder not that we should actually ban planes. That would be like saying let’s ban vans because these terrorists are driving them into crowds, the van isn’t the issue. The evil and hatred in the world is and there isn’t really a way to stop it.
