Unkown. First off if you think you are not being offensive by what you are doing, you are clearly mistaken. You are clearly using your avatar as a way to make fun of something that many people hold high in regard as holy and sacred. You say your avatar is not offensive but looking at this screenshot of your most recent blogs (http://prntscr.com/2udnft ) you called religion a joke, clearly using your avatar as a platform to say that religion is not a serious thing and that is laugh worthy. Also, the fact that you are using a statement saying that the Bible is offensive cause it uses Jesus's name makes you look not only stupid but a jerk. The Bible uses his name in reverence and praise, while your avatar is intended to make people laugh at something that is of the utmost seriousness. Don't act like you're innocent because you are not, you know that there is a malicious intent underlying in why you uploaded this design. If you think my religion is funny, so be it, but don't publicate such an opinion as it is clearly inflammatory and offensive to others.
to be honest there are people who use religion as an excuse to discriminate on certain people (gays) bc they claim it's a sin or whatever
as a gay person i learned to ignore the hate/judgements coming from some religious people who are against homosexuality
as a religious person you should learn to ignore the hate as well and deal with the fact that not everyone is religious or respects your religion
i don't think it's that big of a deal if he mocks religion because let's be honest religion isn't perfect and religious people aren't either
if people find his avi offensive they should just ignore him and his blogs
not taking sides, i just think this argument is pointless
Etienne You're grouping religious people as a whole, when in fact there are many kind religious people who would never discriminate....Your whole comment was actually pretty stupid TBH.
Etienne No, I don't look stupid.... You're trying to make Michelle look like he had no right to defend his religion and that he shouldn't be able to speak up, which is clearly stupid.
Icing Never said anything about Michelle not having the right to defend his religion
I'm saying it's all about perspective
I have my opinion as well and just because I'm voicing it and you happen to not agree with me it makes me stupid? Not everyone thinks like you, and my comments aren't stupid just because you don't agree with them :)
"as a religious person you should learn to ignore the hate as well and deal with the fact that not everyone is religious or respects your religion
i don't think it's that big of a deal if he mocks religion because let's be honest religion isn't perfect and religious people aren't either"
^^^you said that...If this was someone making fun of gay people, you would be having a fit right now, so to tell him to just "ignore" it is hypocritical of you Etienne
I just hope that we can both at least agree that if we learned to respect one another, things like this wont need to be said tbh :X
turney1805 i respect people who respect me, if someone is religious and has no problem with gays then i have no problem with them
i really don't care to argue with people on a blog, i simply stated my opinion and if you don't agree with me then that's fine
All the people who have an issue with his avatar should log off so they don't have to see it anyway but they prob wont cuz they too obsessed with the site!
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You have been warned.
Bye
>Stop abusing your position and I shall. The choice is yours. I'll give it 24 hours to see some change. Have a wonderful, blessed night!
>>I have let your blogs about us go on for a while now without caring but at this point I am asking you to stop not only posting inaccurate information but also insulting information.
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>>Failure to do so will result in a ban.
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>>Have a good night.
MichelleObama This logic applies to everyone who uses the Jesus tag to make fun of Christianity.
Disappointed by some of the comments saying it's okay to make fun of religion.
Being gay may not be a choice, but wanting equal rights and fighting for it is a choice.
Do those people who announce their beliefs deserve abuse because they may not have popular beliefs?
ok, why get offended by someone calling religion a joke? he shouldn't have said those things but at the end of the day pretty much all wars are caused by religion so i see where he's coming from. Religion is a strange and controversial area which causes way too much drama. Yoshitomi actually i'd say that fighting for equal rights is something we shouldn't have to do because it's a right as a human being as opposed to a choice.
I feel like no one's getting the take-home message from your blog at all =s although idrc too much about his avatar, I agree that it's just something disrespectful to do. I mean there's a line between having fun and actually being completely disrespectful to people who often internalize religion and do hold it dear to them. I think the issue with a lot of Tengagers is that they literally care about nothing and no one - so they can't see when they're having fun at the true expense of others.
Also, I don't think religion starts war spartanjack: people do. It clearly states in most religious texts that we shouldn't make war with anyone and that we should treat everyone well, etc. I know in Islamic texts it literally says that Muslims should get along with Jews and Christians. Just because people use religion as an excuse doesn't mean religion itself is faulty. I think people just take things too literally and don't realize that the rules set were meant for back when the books were created, and that we should have brains to actually mold everything based on how society is now. Basically, wars happen because everyone's stupid woo.
He's entitled to his own opinion on religion, but that's never an excuse to mock :/ I dislike some aspects of it myself because of how it can negatively alienate certain groups of people, but still, it's better to live and let live. I find some religious theories fascinating.
If being religious gives you happiness and joy, it's the right of nobody to mock that, whatever they think.
I think this is a little too over dramatic... if you're honestly that offended by somebody making their avatar a picture of Jesus you've got to be one of the most sensitive people I've ever met.
LOL i dont know what you guys are smoking but im with @unkown on this one. Everything can be put funny no matter how serious it is. Not his fault that 95% of people on this site have a dull sense of humour and cant take a joke. Jesus is probably up in heaven smoking a fat billy with Nate Dogg, 2-Pac and Proof, having a good old laugh over this
Look at the comments section itself, there is already a clear indication that some people take religion seriously and some don't. True, you have freedom of speech but there's also freedom to believe.
It is also true that "some", as Etienne would call it, religious people can be "harsh" to the gay community. It is true that some of these people who are hateful and some gays learned to ignore it.
But what did you actually feel when they were bashing you? Were you hurt? Were you emotionally attacked because of something you believe you are, you know you are and you live you are? If something you believe in, or you live with, or you are, is MOCKED by somewhat a simple joke : would you just ignore it initially? wouldn't you feel hurt?
Now as a religious person, and someone mocked you, wouldn't you feel the same hurt?
Thus, because of this hurt, NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO MOCK one's lifestyle, belief and/or religion. If you are gay, so what? If you are doing good, happy and living in peace, who are we to judge you? As long as you are not spreading hate and negativity, go ahead live your life.
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Spread love, not hate. and the avatar is neither classy nor civilized (you are gradually scooping to the level of those preachy gay-bashing Christians and if you think they are hurtful, please reflect on that)
I am bisexual and I have a church group that accepts me for who I am. I believe in faith and in God but I live in a lifestyle that is deemed sinful by a lot of other churches. In my church group, I learned to understand the source of that hate and it's a very miserable thing.
SpartanJack A world where everyone has equal rights and entitlements will never exist.
You can't give a dangerous job to someone who someone with a disability which doesn't allow them to do that job, no matter how much they want the job.
Is that unfair?
But if you demand respect, you should give respect out.
And what's the point of wanting respect and wanting to be treated equally if you don't treat others the same way?
It's okay to mock them because "religion isn't perfect and religious people aren't either".
Not every gay person is a saint either?
But are we seriously going to judge an entire group of people based on the a-holes?
Not every war has been caused by religion specifically. Wars have been caused by lack of tolerance towards fellow human beings, whether it be political beliefs, physical features or religion.
Etienne I originally only planned to tag Ms.Obama, but there you go. XD
I didn't want to debate this, but SpartanJack responded to me and referenced you as well.
He didn't tag you either.
I found the idea and logic of your comment offensive as you're justifying bullying anyone for believing in something you think is ludicrous.
So you can laugh at someone for being hopeful with that logic.
However, I know you are someone who has very self assured beliefs and you don't care who you hurt as long as you're honest with yourself.
Yoshitomi But he named me, and you didn't lol
I've never said that bullying was ok and I don't condone bullying, I don't know where you took that from. Do not put words in my mouth, thanks!
As I said I'm done arguing with people for what I believe in because my mind isn't going to change. I was just telling you to trend me (or at least name me) if you're gonna quote something that I said in a comment
Have a nice day.
ARTPOP yes.... clutch8791 AND you have both done a FANTASTIC job of showing the tengaged community the difference of free speech and being a cunt. you have shown what a cunt you are and he has shown what free speech is :)
"You have the right to believe anything you want.
You don't have the right to have that belief automatically respected.
Big difference." - Ricky Gervais
As I said I'm done arguing with people for what I believe in because my mind isn't going to change. I was just telling you to trend me (or at least name me) if you're gonna quote something that I said in a comment
Have a nice day.
Sent by Etienne,Feb 21, 2014
Now that is just stubborn and immature. You have formed opinions and judgments but haven't given yourself room to grow as a human being and an individual. Sure, you may be strong in your beliefs and may think it will be impossible to change those views, but I have learned, especially with knowledgeable Tengaged users, that it is alright to alter what you believe because that is finding out more about yourself and also gaining insight into other peoples' perspectives. It is just idiotic to place blame on an entire group when there are many people in the group that are the nicest and most genuine people you'll ever meet.
Most religious people couldn't care less if their religion offends someone else...so why should anyone care if they're offended? It's hypocrisy at it's finest.
Nobody ever said religious people were perfect, Etienne. That's the whole point of Jesus dying on the cross because we aren't perfect and need a savior to redeem us.
Why are the religious people who are getting offended being told to log off? I did not come to this site to have religious conflict, and we as an entire community shouldn't even tolerate people who cause these problems, let alone encourage it! And I mean that for all discrimination and offensive material on this site. Seriously, this is just so below all of us.
MichelleObama We don't know each other, but I freakin love you for this blog! That design just pisses me off so much, and I've grown up a preacher's daughter & in church all of my life.
People on this site may not have the same beliefs as you and I, but they need to be more open minded about how this design and him posting stuff from the Bible as a joke is offensive to the Christians on this site. It's just quite childish & petty that someone would stoop that low.
MichelleObama
but aren't you mocking michelle obama?
...i'm sure there are folks out there who hold her in high regard.
No,I am not saying the obamas are on the same level as jesus but still...mocking is mocking is mocking.
or am I wrong?
IT'S OK TO MAKE FUN OF RELIGION BECAUSE IT HAS FLAWS BUT DON'T HATE THE GAYS OR THEN YOU GET IT BECAUSE GAY PEOPLE DEF DON'T HAVE FLAWS AT ALL #TENGAGEDLOGIC#UNKOWN2016
Amen. You couldn't be more right girl. Anyone who disagrees clearly doesn't understand and just wants to defend the asshole. I'm glad you and a lot of us smart people took a stand against this insulting mockery of something many of us hold dear. Good job!